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If IBM acquires Sun what could change ? [message #17918] Wed, 18 March 2009 05:48 Go to next message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad Varnica
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Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
I was reading the newspaper this morning and it is written that IBM is
currently looking to acquire Sun.
My question are:
Do you think that only one IDE will remain available (e.g. Netbeans versus
Eclipse ) ?
Will IBM sponsor Eclipse or Netbeans ?

It would be important that the Eclipse Foundation invest in showing how
Eclipse is a profitable platform for software vendor and integrators and
not just intend to promote so many none strategic open source projects.

If it happens Omondo will immediately publish a detailed feature chart
between Netbeans and Eclipse modeling tools. On the modeling market we are
a lot better but on the Jee and Database integration we are in direct
competition. It would be interesting that other corporations specialized
into Jee or Database or other fields explain why they have invested into
Eclipse and why is better that Netbeans.

If IBM select Netbeans then it could be the end of Eclipse, so we need to
be careful and explain every day more why Eclipse is better.
btw, the decision will be taken before the beginning or during the
EclipseCon and I expect an immediate reaction of the foundation after this
possible acquisition.
Thanks,

Vlad,
Omondo
Re: If IBM acquires Sun what could change ? [message #17933 is a reply to message #17918] Wed, 18 March 2009 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Milinkovich is currently offline Mike Milinkovich
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Vlad,

Thank you for your insightful comments.

I am sure that IBM and the many other companies participating at Eclipse
will make their decisions based on what is best for their businesses, the
projects and the open source community.

On a related note, the Eclipse Foundation does not comment on the business
strategies of any of its members. There have been many acquisitions in the
technology marketplace over the past five years. I don't see why we would
treat this one any differently. So if IBM should acquire Sun there will not
be any "reaction" from Eclipse Foundation.

"Vlad Varnica" <varnica@omondo.com> wrote in message
news:f898fc2ed74501b109d71750880692bb$1@www.eclipse.org...
>I was reading the newspaper this morning and it is written that IBM is
>currently looking to acquire Sun.
> My question are: Do you think that only one IDE will remain available
> (e.g. Netbeans versus Eclipse ) ?
> Will IBM sponsor Eclipse or Netbeans ?
>
> It would be important that the Eclipse Foundation invest in showing how
> Eclipse is a profitable platform for software vendor and integrators and
> not just intend to promote so many none strategic open source projects.
>
> If it happens Omondo will immediately publish a detailed feature chart
> between Netbeans and Eclipse modeling tools. On the modeling market we are
> a lot better but on the Jee and Database integration we are in direct
> competition. It would be interesting that other corporations specialized
> into Jee or Database or other fields explain why they have invested into
> Eclipse and why is better that Netbeans.
> If IBM select Netbeans then it could be the end of Eclipse, so we need to
> be careful and explain every day more why Eclipse is better.
> btw, the decision will be taken before the beginning or during the
> EclipseCon and I expect an immediate reaction of the foundation after this
> possible acquisition. Thanks,
>
> Vlad,
> Omondo
>
Re: If IBM acquires Sun what could change ? [message #17945 is a reply to message #17933] Thu, 19 March 2009 07:31 Go to previous message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad Varnica
Messages: 546
Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
Hi Mike,

It seems that the most logical option would be a merge of Netbeans within
Eclipse. I think that Netbeans should therefore join the Eclipse
Foundation and that all the entire Java community should finally be united.
I know this is a long process and I hope this Java community demand will
be considered at management levels.

Vlad,
Omondo
French Java User Group
Re: If IBM acquires Sun what could change ? [message #566883 is a reply to message #17918] Wed, 18 March 2009 14:12 Go to previous message
Mike Milinkovich is currently offline Mike Milinkovich
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Vlad,

Thank you for your insightful comments.

I am sure that IBM and the many other companies participating at Eclipse
will make their decisions based on what is best for their businesses, the
projects and the open source community.

On a related note, the Eclipse Foundation does not comment on the business
strategies of any of its members. There have been many acquisitions in the
technology marketplace over the past five years. I don't see why we would
treat this one any differently. So if IBM should acquire Sun there will not
be any "reaction" from Eclipse Foundation.

"Vlad Varnica" <varnica@omondo.com> wrote in message
news:f898fc2ed74501b109d71750880692bb$1@www.eclipse.org...
>I was reading the newspaper this morning and it is written that IBM is
>currently looking to acquire Sun.
> My question are: Do you think that only one IDE will remain available
> (e.g. Netbeans versus Eclipse ) ?
> Will IBM sponsor Eclipse or Netbeans ?
>
> It would be important that the Eclipse Foundation invest in showing how
> Eclipse is a profitable platform for software vendor and integrators and
> not just intend to promote so many none strategic open source projects.
>
> If it happens Omondo will immediately publish a detailed feature chart
> between Netbeans and Eclipse modeling tools. On the modeling market we are
> a lot better but on the Jee and Database integration we are in direct
> competition. It would be interesting that other corporations specialized
> into Jee or Database or other fields explain why they have invested into
> Eclipse and why is better that Netbeans.
> If IBM select Netbeans then it could be the end of Eclipse, so we need to
> be careful and explain every day more why Eclipse is better.
> btw, the decision will be taken before the beginning or during the
> EclipseCon and I expect an immediate reaction of the foundation after this
> possible acquisition. Thanks,
>
> Vlad,
> Omondo
>
Re: If IBM acquires Sun what could change ? [message #566893 is a reply to message #17933] Thu, 19 March 2009 07:31 Go to previous message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad Varnica
Messages: 546
Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
Hi Mike,

It seems that the most logical option would be a merge of Netbeans within
Eclipse. I think that Netbeans should therefore join the Eclipse
Foundation and that all the entire Java community should finally be united.
I know this is a long process and I hope this Java community demand will
be considered at management levels.

Vlad,
Omondo
French Java User Group
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