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Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170469]

Sat, 03 June 2006 08:55

Eclipse User

I have started building an eclipse project wizard for GWT.

Quite soon I realized that this is the beginning of something far broader.
The idea of a tooling framework for WTP similar in concept to JSF tooling
platform, suddenly crossed my mind.

I will keep working on the subject on the purpose of learning eclipse
technologies but I could also actively contribute to a related eclipse
project.

Please consider the idea of opening a related Eclipse project for GWT
tooling

Re: Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170499 is a reply to message #170469]

Sun, 04 June 2006 05:48

Eclipse User

Really interesting. I'd like to help in this.
I'm not an experienced Eclipse Plugin developer but if I can help in any way (testing for example) I'll do.

Andrea

Re: Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170515 is a reply to message #170499]

Sun, 04 June 2006 18:19

Eclipse User

I have developed a WTP integrated project wizard for GWT.

I have also investigated the integration of GWT widgets with Eclipse
Visual Editor. It seems that VE was designed to support hosting of widgets
belonging to any graphics toolkit not only JFC/Swing and SWT.

See
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-VE-Custom-Widget/cus tomwidget.html
and observe a few key phrases that betray the concept.

1.
The pre-requisite plugin org.eclipse.ve.swt is not necessarily required
by everyone extending the visual editor. It contains the code that
enables the visual editor to work with the SWT and because
MyCustomPrompter is an SWT custom widget the plugin will be extending SWT
base behavior. If your plugin was for a JFC toolkit such as AWT or Swing
you would not necessarily include org.eclipse.ve.swt in your list of
dependencies but instead would use org.eclipse.ve.jfc. If your plugin was
for an entirely new widget toolkit you might include neither.

2.
Supplying a custom GEF edit part

Before accessing the resources on the link above I believed that either
GWT would have to adopt to VE or the other way around. Fortunately it
seeems that supplying VE graphical edit parts for each new widget and
implementing the graphical behavior of the widget in the edit part is
merely enough.
It also seems that VE can work not only with the supported toolkis but
also with any toolkit as long as VE representations (graphical edit parts)
are supplied for each widget.

Having both GWT integration with Eclipse WTP and integration with a
designer tool would be best. I would consist an almost complete solution
for GWT development.

Any help towars this goal is welcome

Re: Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170651 is a reply to message #170469]

Mon, 05 June 2006 17:58

Eclipse User

>Please consider the idea of opening a related Eclipse project for GWT
>tooling

I like your enthusiasm but new projects can't simply be created at will.
There is a process. Projects require proposals [1] and acceptance by
Eclipse. Part of the acceptance process is to ensure that a project has
adequate development resources and that the project addresses a need by
the community.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/

Lawrence

Re: Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170666 is a reply to message #170651]

Mon, 05 June 2006 20:29

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: thisisnot.mymail.com

lmandel@ca.ibm.com wrote:
>> Please consider the idea of opening a related Eclipse project for GWT
>> tooling
>
> I like your enthusiasm but new projects can't simply be created at will.
> There is a process. Projects require proposals [1] and acceptance by
> Eclipse. Part of the acceptance process is to ensure that a project has
> adequate development resources and that the project addresses a need by
> the community.
>
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/
>
> Lawrence

If GWT was a tag library or a jsf component this would be a non-issue.
Although I like their thinking out of the box choosing a non standard
platform to develop a solution just makes it harder and more difficult
to invest in developing tools for it. As ajax is the cool buzzword of
the moment some investment in tooling will be made by the giants but I'd
be more inclined that things like DWR, dojo, prototype, moo.fx and
scriptaculus are to be more widely accepted. Perhaps the google guys
would like to donate some code to the WTP ajax project? What I would
like to see is better integration with the existing web frameworks (or a
more clearly documented point of integration), both controller or
component based.
Don't get down guys, if you believe in yourselves you can do it! A
project like this is ideal to excel in extending eclipse and I bet
Google might even add it to it's Summer of Code grants. Just open a
sourceforge project and start coding.
PS. I like the "There is a process" comment. It's a glimpse of how an
organization like IBM (or should I say the eclipse foundation?) must
think in order to keep large scale projects like these predictable. That
said, you can think out of the box :)
Anyhow, was the wtp/eclipse push in embedding ajax tooling something
hinted by the marketing/executive department or was it user feedback?
Srgjan

Re: Google Web Toolkit (GWT) tooling for WTP [message #170788 is a reply to message #170651]

Wed, 07 June 2006 18:24

Eclipse User

I understand.
I do not suggest to create a project at will just because I had an idea.
Just have it in mind. I am willing to actively contribute when/if the time
comes.

Thanx
Elias

<lmandel@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message news:e629e9$o56$2@utils.eclipse.org...
> >Please consider the idea of opening a related Eclipse project for GWT
> >tooling
>
> I like your enthusiasm but new projects can't simply be created at will.
> There is a process. Projects require proposals [1] and acceptance by
> Eclipse. Part of the acceptance process is to ensure that a project has
> adequate development resources and that the project addresses a need by
> the community.
>
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/
>
> Lawrence
>

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