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Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #14812] Fri, 03 March 2006 07:26 Go to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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No pun quoting "My Fair Lady" intended ;-) Actually the authors of the
Higgins Framework claim some MOUSE named Higgins was responsible for its
code name (not heard of that one, but it might be too UK related ?)

Anyway, what is written here about it (currently a link from the Eclipse
home page) OHF is likely to require a close eye on Higgins and use it as
part of its security initiatives.

http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3587701

Both on the side of medical staff, but also for Social Security Smartcards
(where Higgins has interfaces with it, likely as the ones I heard of use
the "GINA" system also used in the OS like Windows)
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #14844 is a reply to message #14812] Sun, 05 March 2006 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: grahame.jivamedical.com

> Anyway, what is written here about it (currently a link from the Eclipse
> home page) OHF is likely to require a close eye on Higgins and use it as
> part of its security initiatives.
>
> http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3587701


this will be interesting. From my point of view, it overlaps with
several standards initiatives in healthcare, so it will be require
watching in that regard.

I had thought that higgins was dead. or dormant anyway. Nice to
see some action, I will try and catch up with them at Eclipse Con.

Grahame
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #14905 is a reply to message #14844] Tue, 07 March 2006 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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Well, at least in (Central) Europe you might still have a bit of time,
till Social Security and Healthcare standards (for insurance cards at
least, the staff ID technology in hospitals might be more advanced) are
mature and widespread.

I just saw the Austrian one die and its follow-up is pushed and forced by
the insurance body, but not more than a "Zombie" and a Shadow Internet
forcing doctors and clinics to have a redundant second line for all that
(because they were inept to incorporate established security standards in
their case)

Lets see what the German authority (under a new government now) does? I
just heard from a BEA consultant I worked with in a prior project, he
prayed this "goblet on fire" will pass his company and others (in Austria
it IS in fact IBM who is involved!) will jump into it... Their road
pricing drama and close to failure as well as a similar one in Austria
(with a common emergency network similar to 911 in the US) which totally
failed were of course indicators for his hopes and fears.

Other countries like France have an insurance card for quite a while. The
Scandinavian countries also seem to have it? So standards there are more
likely to be oriented by what THEY got than Austria's redundant sole
semi-drama... ;-/
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #16866 is a reply to message #14812] Fri, 31 March 2006 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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For Security and Single Sign-On Features on the Server as well this OS
Project could be worth watching:
JOSSO.org
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #16891 is a reply to message #16866] Sun, 02 April 2006 01:35 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: grahame.jivamedical.com

Werner Keil wrote:
> For Security and Single Sign-On Features on the Server as well this OS
> Project could be worth watching:
> JOSSO.org
>

actually, it may no longer be our issue.
Several IBM teams are working on security in
eclipse.

See http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=451
and http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=459
and http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=449

So OHF will be perfectly happy to have equinox
take the lead in this area. We have offered to
be involved as users/testers, and some of the
OHF committers may have a more direct involvement.
It's still to be determined what the boundary with
OHF will be - what things are our business.

I encouraged the Equinox guys to treat security as
a sub-project, but they weren't really interested.
I suggest that you sign up to the Equinox development
list and post the josso.org link there.

Grahame
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #567205 is a reply to message #14812] Sun, 05 March 2006 21:35 Go to previous message
Grahame Grieve is currently offline Grahame Grieve
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> Anyway, what is written here about it (currently a link from the Eclipse
> home page) OHF is likely to require a close eye on Higgins and use it as
> part of its security initiatives.
>
> http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3587701


this will be interesting. From my point of view, it overlaps with
several standards initiatives in healthcare, so it will be require
watching in that regard.

I had thought that higgins was dead. or dormant anyway. Nice to
see some action, I will try and catch up with them at Eclipse Con.

Grahame
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #567259 is a reply to message #14844] Tue, 07 March 2006 08:28 Go to previous message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 96
Registered: July 2009
Member
Well, at least in (Central) Europe you might still have a bit of time,
till Social Security and Healthcare standards (for insurance cards at
least, the staff ID technology in hospitals might be more advanced) are
mature and widespread.

I just saw the Austrian one die and its follow-up is pushed and forced by
the insurance body, but not more than a "Zombie" and a Shadow Internet
forcing doctors and clinics to have a redundant second line for all that
(because they were inept to incorporate established security standards in
their case)

Lets see what the German authority (under a new government now) does? I
just heard from a BEA consultant I worked with in a prior project, he
prayed this "goblet on fire" will pass his company and others (in Austria
it IS in fact IBM who is involved!) will jump into it... Their road
pricing drama and close to failure as well as a similar one in Austria
(with a common emergency network similar to 911 in the US) which totally
failed were of course indicators for his hopes and fears.

Other countries like France have an insurance card for quite a while. The
Scandinavian countries also seem to have it? So standards there are more
likely to be oriented by what THEY got than Austria's redundant sole
semi-drama... ;-/
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #568082 is a reply to message #14812] Fri, 31 March 2006 11:33 Go to previous message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 96
Registered: July 2009
Member
For Security and Single Sign-On Features on the Server as well this OS
Project could be worth watching:
JOSSO.org
Re: Watch Out (for) Higgins [message #568106 is a reply to message #16866] Sun, 02 April 2006 01:35 Go to previous message
Grahame Grieve is currently offline Grahame Grieve
Messages: 76
Registered: July 2009
Member
Werner Keil wrote:
> For Security and Single Sign-On Features on the Server as well this OS
> Project could be worth watching:
> JOSSO.org
>

actually, it may no longer be our issue.
Several IBM teams are working on security in
eclipse.

See http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=451
and http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=459
and http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=449

So OHF will be perfectly happy to have equinox
take the lead in this area. We have offered to
be involved as users/testers, and some of the
OHF committers may have a more direct involvement.
It's still to be determined what the boundary with
OHF will be - what things are our business.

I encouraged the Equinox guys to treat security as
a sub-project, but they weren't really interested.
I suggest that you sign up to the Equinox development
list and post the josso.org link there.

Grahame
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