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Getting started [message #1016124] Tue, 05 March 2013 07:32 Go to next message
bob c is currently offline bob c
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Sorry for the dumb question, but getting started is sometimes trickiest of all. I installed the Android ADT with eclipse. When I tried to run eclipse, I got an error that it could not find Java. The first thing I did was uninstall and reinstall Java, getting me to the 7.17 update.... Then I managed to figure out where they now hide the path command, and got WIndows to include my Java directory in the path. That moved me forward. Now I am getting a "Failed to load the INI shared library "c:\.....\jvm.dll" message. The path shown in the error message matches the path where this DLL file exists, so I am stumped.

Can someone please help me get started ?

If it matters, running Windows 7 and Java 7 update 17.


And as a quick side note, I have a Java app that stopped loading when I installed eclipse and the ADT. Now it just fails to load with no error message. Anyone have any ideas? If not I can just wait until I can reach tech support for that program sometime tomorrow.
Re: Getting started [message #1016570 is a reply to message #1016124] Wed, 06 March 2013 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell Bateman
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Registered: July 2009
Location: Provo, Utah, USA
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On 3/6/2013 4:08 PM, bob c wrote:
> Sorry for the dumb question, but getting started is sometimes trickiest
> of all. I installed the Android ADT with eclipse. When I tried to run
> eclipse, I got an error that it could not find Java. The first thing I
> did was uninstall and reinstall Java, getting me to the 7.17 update....
> Then I managed to figure out where they now hide the path command, and
> got WIndows to include my Java directory in the path. That moved me
> forward. Now I am getting a "Failed to load the INI shared library
> "c:\.....\jvm.dll" message. The path shown in the error message matches
> the path where this DLL file exists, so I am stumped.
>
> Can someone please help me get started ?
> If it matters, running Windows 7 and Java 7 update 17.
>
>
> And as a quick side note, I have a Java app that stopped loading when I
> installed eclipse and the ADT. Now it just fails to load with no error
> message. Anyone have any ideas? If not I can just wait until I can
> reach tech support for that program sometime tomorrow.

Many out there have written how-tos for getting started with Eclipse.
Find one. Come back here with specific problems. My steps would be:

1. Download a proper JDK (not JRE) from Sun. Install it locally (e.g.:
C:\Users\bob\jdk1.6.0_38). This is because Java interests you since
Android obviously interests you. By installing it locally, you will not
be disturbing whatever your OS is running; conversely, whatever your OS
gets upgraded to will not disturb your Eclipse development.

2. Download and explode Eclipse IDE for Java Developers. It must match
the bittedness of your JDK.

3. Edit eclipse/eclipse.ini and point to your JDK. See
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini.

4. Set up a shortcut to wherever you exploded Eclipse and launch it. Go
to Help -> Install New Software or Eclipse Marketplace to install ADT
(haven't done this in a long time; go see what you're supposed to do in
the official place).

These forums do not help you with Android. That's separate. If you'd
read the sticky posts at the top of this forum, you'd have seen this one:

http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/225513/

Best of luck.
Re: Getting started [message #1016587 is a reply to message #1016570] Thu, 07 March 2013 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bob c is currently offline bob c
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Yes I saw the posts re: Android, but I have not gotten to Android yet. I am trying to run eclipse. I made the changes outlined in the eclipse.ini instructions and it had no effect on anything.

I will try digging up the JDK and installing that, even though I have not seen that as a requirement anywhere else. I understand ity will be ultimately better, but I just want to get eclipse running as simply as possible with as few variables from the stangdard install as possible. I will also see if I can figure out what the bit size is for the ADT version of eclipse, since you are saying that needs to match.

As far as posting specific problems, that is very unhelpful. I read everything I could find before posting, and followed any instructions I found. But when you are new to something and it just does not run, its hard to be as specific as some experts might like. I have been down this road many times in the last 40 years of programming, and its always the same. The first step can be the most befuddling. Once you can do something, you can do anything. But if you cant do anything, there are not enough clues without help from someone else. The basic install (and teh nitwits who support it) seem to always assume it will go perfectly. WHen it does not, we have to rely on the kindness of strangers.

Thanks for the clues....

[Updated on: Thu, 07 March 2013 02:05]

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Re: Getting started [message #1016594 is a reply to message #1016587] Thu, 07 March 2013 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell Bateman
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Registered: July 2009
Location: Provo, Utah, USA
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On 03/06/2013 06:41 PM, bob c wrote:
> Yes I saw the posts re: Android, but I have not gotten to Android yet. I
> am trying to run eclipse. I made the changes outlined in the
> eclipse.ini instructions and it had no effect on anything.
>
> I will try digging up the JDK and installing that, even though I have
> not seen that as a requirement anywhere else. I understand ity will be
> ultimately better, but I just want to get eclipse running as simply as
> possible with as few variables from the stangdard install as possible. I
> will also see if I can figure out what the bit size is for the ADT
> version of eclipse, since you are saying that needs to match. The ADT
> did not give me 32/64 choices when I downloaded.
>
> As far as posting specific problems, that is very unhelpful. I read
> everything I could find before posting, and followed any instructions I
> found. But when you are new to something and it just does not run, its
> hard to be as specific as some experts might like. I have been down this
> road many times in the last 40 years of programming, and its always the
> same. The first step can be the most befuddling. Once you can do
> something, you can do anything. But if you cant do anything, there are
> not enough clues without help from someone else. The basic install (and
> teh nitwits who support it) seem to always assume it will go perfectly.
> WHen it does not, we have to rely on the kindness of strangers.
>
> Thanks for the clues....

A JDK is really needed for writing Java code. Android development is
done in Java (unless you're doing it some other way, but you're here, so
you're doing it in Java).

For the JDK...

1, Go to java.sun.com
2. Hover over Downloads
3. Choose Java for Developers
4. Scroll down and pick the Download button under JDK for Java SE 6
Update 43.
5. Accept the license agreement.
6. Download the appropriate version for your hardware and OS needs.

For Windows, this will be a self-extracting archive. It will want to
install itself for the whole machine; you should not let it do that as I
noted before.

Java 7 might work for ADT, I don't know, however, the latest Java 6 is
always excellent.

I've never had trouble with the Eclipse "install" which is strange since
I always seem so clueless before most other new things.

I don't think ADT has a bittedness; it didn't when I did Android
development briefly a couple of years ago.

Yes, I came to the Java/JEE world 7 years ago after over 25 years in
C/assembly, ALGOL, Pascal and FORTRAN IV before that. It's a very steep
and fairly nasty curve. I've taken notes, some more useful than others.
If they're helpful to you, you're welcome to them.

http://www.javahotchocolate.com

You're always welcome here, but the more specific your question is the
more likely it will be answered immediately and accurately.

Hope this helps,

Russ
Re: Getting started [message #1016596 is a reply to message #1016594] Thu, 07 March 2013 04:50 Go to previous message
bob c is currently offline bob c
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Registered: March 2013
Junior Member
Thanks.

Downloading the 32 bit version solved the problem. I wont go into all the confusion that led me to believe I had 64 but IE and Java until I looked closely.
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