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Group Layout Support for VE [message #143953] Sat, 08 March 2008 20:18 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steeler906.excite.com

I am really interested in where the VE is going; especially in regards to
Group Layout (even Spring Layout) both of which are fully supported in
Java 6.

I envy the use of the layouts in Netbeans, but also like the simplicty
that Eclipses VE brings to development.

Thanks for any information.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #143961 is a reply to message #143953] Mon, 10 March 2008 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David  Pérez is currently offline David Pérez
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Registered: July 2009
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I'm also very interested in this issue, I like it a lot.
I've even seen in Windows Builder Pro, that this layout is usable in SWT.

Daryl wrote:

> I am really interested in where the VE is going; especially in regards to
> Group Layout (even Spring Layout) both of which are fully supported in
> Java 6.

> I envy the use of the layouts in Netbeans, but also like the simplicty
> that Eclipses VE brings to development.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #144062 is a reply to message #143961] Mon, 17 March 2008 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Clayberg is currently offline Eric Clayberg
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Registered: July 2009
Location: Boston, MA
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"David Perez" <craquerpro@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:67860d3a6c2e380161192eba652bc52c$1@www.eclipse.org...
> I'm also very interested in this issue, I like it a lot.
> I've even seen in Windows Builder Pro, that this layout is usable in SWT.

Yes. If you are interested in GroupLayout support for both Swing and SWT,
take a look at WindowBuilder/Swing Designer/SWT Designer. Swing Designer
also supports SpringLayout and SWT Designer supports FormLayout.

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/

Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/032142672X
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #144406 is a reply to message #143953] Sat, 05 April 2008 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steeler906.excite.com

So no response? I would really like to know from someone on the VE team
where the VE is headed. At this point the "writing on the wall" would
suggest eclipse isn't going to add anything to the VE. It seems as though
2004 was the last major change at all... this is disappointing.

In any case, I would really like to know what we can expect from the VE,
for Swing, in the future.

Thanks.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #144413 is a reply to message #144406] Sun, 06 April 2008 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: wegener.cboenospam.com

Daryl wrote:
> So no response? I would really like to know from someone on the VE team
> where the VE is headed. At this point the "writing on the wall" would
> suggest eclipse isn't going to add anything to the VE. It seems as
> though 2004 was the last major change at all... this is disappointing.
> In any case, I would really like to know what we can expect from the VE,
> for Swing, in the future.
>
> Thanks.
>
The Eclipse Foundation does not add things to Eclipse projects. The
Eclipse community does. The purpose of the Foundation is to help
facilitate the organization of the projects. It is up to us, the
members of the community, to make sure that the projects are actively
maintained.

Unfortunately, the original VE developers have moved on and are no
longer supporting the project. There have been a couple of dedicated VE
users who have agreed to try and continue the VE project. I believe
that they are currently working to make VE compatible with Eclipse 3.3
You can check out this page to help track their progress.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing

The best way you can make sure that features are added to VE is to
volunteer your time and contribute them yourself or offer to help in
other ways so that other team members can contribute the features.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #144430 is a reply to message #144413] Sun, 06 April 2008 17:37 Go to previous message
Chris is currently offline Chris
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thier roadmap says 1.3 release by Q2.
Now I'm wondering how close they are to this point.

I'm waiting for this because hopefully it will be available through the
update options built into eclipse. I'm stuck with 3.2.2 till then due to
my classes need to run with visual editor.(eclipse 3.2.2 I don't think is
listed as fully vista compatible and I know for a fact that 3.2.1 which
most of my fellow students run crashes enough to give my teacher whiplash)
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #616982 is a reply to message #143953] Mon, 10 March 2008 04:22 Go to previous message
David  Pérez is currently offline David Pérez
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I'm also very interested in this issue, I like it a lot.
I've even seen in Windows Builder Pro, that this layout is usable in SWT.

Daryl wrote:

> I am really interested in where the VE is going; especially in regards to
> Group Layout (even Spring Layout) both of which are fully supported in
> Java 6.

> I envy the use of the layouts in Netbeans, but also like the simplicty
> that Eclipses VE brings to development.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #616993 is a reply to message #143961] Mon, 17 March 2008 19:51 Go to previous message
Eric Clayberg is currently offline Eric Clayberg
Messages: 847
Registered: July 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Senior Member
"David Perez" <craquerpro@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:67860d3a6c2e380161192eba652bc52c$1@www.eclipse.org...
> I'm also very interested in this issue, I like it a lot.
> I've even seen in Windows Builder Pro, that this layout is usable in SWT.

Yes. If you are interested in GroupLayout support for both Swing and SWT,
take a look at WindowBuilder/Swing Designer/SWT Designer. Swing Designer
also supports SpringLayout and SWT Designer supports FormLayout.

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/

Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/032142672X
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #617031 is a reply to message #143953] Sat, 05 April 2008 23:43 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steeler906.excite.com

So no response? I would really like to know from someone on the VE team
where the VE is headed. At this point the "writing on the wall" would
suggest eclipse isn't going to add anything to the VE. It seems as though
2004 was the last major change at all... this is disappointing.

In any case, I would really like to know what we can expect from the VE,
for Swing, in the future.

Thanks.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #617032 is a reply to message #144406] Sun, 06 April 2008 12:59 Go to previous message
David Wegener is currently offline David Wegener
Messages: 1336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Daryl wrote:
> So no response? I would really like to know from someone on the VE team
> where the VE is headed. At this point the "writing on the wall" would
> suggest eclipse isn't going to add anything to the VE. It seems as
> though 2004 was the last major change at all... this is disappointing.
> In any case, I would really like to know what we can expect from the VE,
> for Swing, in the future.
>
> Thanks.
>
The Eclipse Foundation does not add things to Eclipse projects. The
Eclipse community does. The purpose of the Foundation is to help
facilitate the organization of the projects. It is up to us, the
members of the community, to make sure that the projects are actively
maintained.

Unfortunately, the original VE developers have moved on and are no
longer supporting the project. There have been a couple of dedicated VE
users who have agreed to try and continue the VE project. I believe
that they are currently working to make VE compatible with Eclipse 3.3
You can check out this page to help track their progress.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing

The best way you can make sure that features are added to VE is to
volunteer your time and contribute them yourself or offer to help in
other ways so that other team members can contribute the features.
Re: Group Layout Support for VE [message #617034 is a reply to message #144413] Sun, 06 April 2008 17:37 Go to previous message
Chris is currently offline Chris
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thier roadmap says 1.3 release by Q2.
Now I'm wondering how close they are to this point.

I'm waiting for this because hopefully it will be available through the
update options built into eclipse. I'm stuck with 3.2.2 till then due to
my classes need to run with visual editor.(eclipse 3.2.2 I don't think is
listed as fully vista compatible and I know for a fact that 3.2.1 which
most of my fellow students run crashes enough to give my teacher whiplash)
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