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EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10019] Mon, 01 September 2008 12:02 Go to next message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi folks,

after reading the above mentioned projects I was wondering how the
packaging and maynstall projects do fit with the new provisioning
framework p2?

Where exactly is the difference between Maynstall and EPP? Are this
projects still up to date or are they redundant now due to P2? And maybe
one more question, how do they differ compared to Pulse or Yoxos?

Regards,
Eugen
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10042 is a reply to message #10019] Mon, 01 September 2008 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
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Well I was now able to find out more about EPP and Maynstall. According to
the project sites Maynstall is quite similar to Pulse and Yoxos, where EPP
as I understand does package the Eclipse features to one single
installable *.exe oder *.app file. Is that correct?

As I could see the last prototype version for Maynstall was created in
June 2007. Is this project still allive?
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10065 is a reply to message #10042] Wed, 03 September 2008 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: tim._NOSPAM_genuitec.com

Eugene,

Regarding Maynstall, now that the foundation provisioning components are
stable with p2 introduced in Eclipse 3.4, we'll be looking to increase
activity again on the Maynstall project. Since 2007 there has been ongoing
patches into CVS for particular point issues and we're now going to be working
on revitalizing the project and come up with a better plan on how to move
forward Maynstall in light of changes in Eclipse 3.4.

EPP has a few different technologies. The first main technology produced from
EPP had to do with bundling packages of popular Eclipse software together,
such as the pre-packaged Eclipse bundles like Java EE that you can get from
the Eclipse.org website. Recently there has been some work on an EPP Wizard
that allows you to have a RAP-based portal to let a user choose some base
software components and provide a p2-based installer to the user which has
instructions to download the software the user wants.

Tim

reiswich@gmx.de (Eugen Reiswich) wrote:

> Well I was now able to find out more about EPP and Maynstall. According to
> the project sites Maynstall is quite similar to Pulse and Yoxos, where EPP
> as I understand does package the Eclipse features to one single
> installable *.exe oder *.app file. Is that correct?
>
> As I could see the last prototype version for Maynstall was created in
> June 2007. Is this project still allive?
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10086 is a reply to message #10065] Wed, 10 September 2008 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
Member
Thanks Tim,

do you see Maynstall as an alternative to Pulse and Yoxos or is this a
tool that can exist next to the commercial products? As I could see on the
Maynstall webpage the features planned are quite similar to those of Pulse
and Yoxos.

Regards,
Eugen
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10107 is a reply to message #10086] Wed, 10 September 2008 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: tim._NOSPAM_genuitec.com

Eugene,

As in there are multiple provisioning technologies available, there
will always be overlap between products and projects just due to the
simple fact that the goal of these different solutions is to deliver
software to end users.

Maynstall was built and is focused on a targeted market. While there
is commonality with Yoxos and Pulse, it is not intended to be a
complete provisioning system. I believe if you dig deeper, you'll
find that the commercial solutions offer much broader solutions than
the Eclipse projects do.

Cheers,
Tim
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #10130 is a reply to message #10107] Fri, 12 September 2008 03:35 Go to previous message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
Member
Thanks Tim,

that's what I wanted to know!

Cheers,
Eugen
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #577861 is a reply to message #10019] Mon, 01 September 2008 13:11 Go to previous message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
Member
Well I was now able to find out more about EPP and Maynstall. According to
the project sites Maynstall is quite similar to Pulse and Yoxos, where EPP
as I understand does package the Eclipse features to one single
installable *.exe oder *.app file. Is that correct?

As I could see the last prototype version for Maynstall was created in
June 2007. Is this project still allive?
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #577899 is a reply to message #10042] Wed, 03 September 2008 10:43 Go to previous message
Timothy Webb is currently offline Timothy Webb
Messages: 5
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Eugene,

Regarding Maynstall, now that the foundation provisioning components are
stable with p2 introduced in Eclipse 3.4, we'll be looking to increase
activity again on the Maynstall project. Since 2007 there has been ongoing
patches into CVS for particular point issues and we're now going to be working
on revitalizing the project and come up with a better plan on how to move
forward Maynstall in light of changes in Eclipse 3.4.

EPP has a few different technologies. The first main technology produced from
EPP had to do with bundling packages of popular Eclipse software together,
such as the pre-packaged Eclipse bundles like Java EE that you can get from
the Eclipse.org website. Recently there has been some work on an EPP Wizard
that allows you to have a RAP-based portal to let a user choose some base
software components and provide a p2-based installer to the user which has
instructions to download the software the user wants.

Tim

reiswich@gmx.de (Eugen Reiswich) wrote:

> Well I was now able to find out more about EPP and Maynstall. According to
> the project sites Maynstall is quite similar to Pulse and Yoxos, where EPP
> as I understand does package the Eclipse features to one single
> installable *.exe oder *.app file. Is that correct?
>
> As I could see the last prototype version for Maynstall was created in
> June 2007. Is this project still allive?
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #577919 is a reply to message #10065] Wed, 10 September 2008 07:35 Go to previous message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
Member
Thanks Tim,

do you see Maynstall as an alternative to Pulse and Yoxos or is this a
tool that can exist next to the commercial products? As I could see on the
Maynstall webpage the features planned are quite similar to those of Pulse
and Yoxos.

Regards,
Eugen
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #577945 is a reply to message #10086] Wed, 10 September 2008 13:41 Go to previous message
Timothy Webb is currently offline Timothy Webb
Messages: 5
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Eugene,

As in there are multiple provisioning technologies available, there
will always be overlap between products and projects just due to the
simple fact that the goal of these different solutions is to deliver
software to end users.

Maynstall was built and is focused on a targeted market. While there
is commonality with Yoxos and Pulse, it is not intended to be a
complete provisioning system. I believe if you dig deeper, you'll
find that the commercial solutions offer much broader solutions than
the Eclipse projects do.

Cheers,
Tim
Re: EPP/Maynstall and Equinox P2 [message #577958 is a reply to message #10107] Fri, 12 September 2008 03:35 Go to previous message
Eugen Reiswich is currently offline Eugen Reiswich
Messages: 35
Registered: July 2009
Member
Thanks Tim,

that's what I wanted to know!

Cheers,
Eugen
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