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Using TPTP AGR across multiple platforms [message #103238] Fri, 06 July 2007 10:57 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nicholas.young.microfocusNOSPAM.com

Hi,

Apologies if this is a dumb question or in the wrong newsgroup, I wasn't
quite sure where to ask this question. We have a product that is a series of
plugins upon the eclipse ide. My task is to test this product, which we have
been doing (more-or-less) successfully at the level we have currently chosen
to automate (mainly Junit/Junit PDE tests).

Now, we need to automate testing of certain parts of the IDE, and the
decision was made to use tptp agr due to it's cross-platform support. Our
product will run across all windows and multiple unix/linux platforms and
various versions of eclipse, so it is essential that we have automated tests
that will run on all platforms. I thought that TPTP could do this, but it
seems my problem may be in the eclipse ide itself. It seems that despite
being the same version of eclipse, the IDE behaves differently on different
platforms.

On Windows, "File > New" for instance, displays a shortcut of Alt + Shift +
N. On Linux it shows Shift + Alt + N. On AIX, it seems to not display a
shortcut key at all. This means that for each platform we will have to have
a different object mine (or at least different entries in the object mine)
and possibly different versions of the tests.

My questions are as follows:

Is there a way of making eclipse behave the same on all platforms?
Is there a tidy way of grouping the object mine information for the
different platforms that makes it obvious to which platform the object's
belong?

We're currently using tptp 4.3.1 on eclipse 3.2.1.

Many thanks for any input,
Nick Young
Re: Using TPTP AGR across multiple platforms [message #103291 is a reply to message #103238] Fri, 06 July 2007 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Slauenwhite is currently offline Paul SlauenwhiteFriend
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Hi Nick,
Unfortunately, there is no way for users to change the behavior of
Eclipse (e.g. file menu shortcuts). Also, there are several cross-platform
support issues with the AGR, including the problem you reference:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170375

Improved cross-platform support is an important theme for the AGR in the
next release, however we constrained by resource limitations. If
interested, we appreciate any contributions from the user community.

Noteworthy, TPTP (and the AGR) is only supported on Windows and Linux,
so cross-platform support is limited to these platforms:

http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/project_info/releaseinfo/4. 4/support.html#Workbench

Also, as noted in a previous post ('[AGR] Compatibility between AGR 4.3
and AGR 4.4'), Eclipse versions are not downward compatible:

http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_p lan_3_3.html#Compatibility

Paul
"Nick Young" <nicholas.young@microfocusNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:f6l77g$i78$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi,
>
> Apologies if this is a dumb question or in the wrong newsgroup, I wasn't
> quite sure where to ask this question. We have a product that is a series
> of plugins upon the eclipse ide. My task is to test this product, which we
> have been doing (more-or-less) successfully at the level we have currently
> chosen to automate (mainly Junit/Junit PDE tests).
>
> Now, we need to automate testing of certain parts of the IDE, and the
> decision was made to use tptp agr due to it's cross-platform support. Our
> product will run across all windows and multiple unix/linux platforms and
> various versions of eclipse, so it is essential that we have automated
> tests that will run on all platforms. I thought that TPTP could do this,
> but it seems my problem may be in the eclipse ide itself. It seems that
> despite being the same version of eclipse, the IDE behaves differently on
> different platforms.
>
> On Windows, "File > New" for instance, displays a shortcut of Alt + Shift
> + N. On Linux it shows Shift + Alt + N. On AIX, it seems to not display a
> shortcut key at all. This means that for each platform we will have to
> have a different object mine (or at least different entries in the object
> mine) and possibly different versions of the tests.
>
> My questions are as follows:
>
> Is there a way of making eclipse behave the same on all platforms?
> Is there a tidy way of grouping the object mine information for the
> different platforms that makes it obvious to which platform the object's
> belong?
>
> We're currently using tptp 4.3.1 on eclipse 3.2.1.
>
> Many thanks for any input,
> Nick Young
>
Re: Using TPTP AGR across multiple platforms [message #104035 is a reply to message #103291] Tue, 10 July 2007 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nicholas.young.microfocusNOSPAM.com

"Paul Slauenwhite" <paules@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:f6lci7$tp6$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Nick,
> Unfortunately, there is no way for users to change the behavior of
> Eclipse (e.g. file menu shortcuts). Also, there are several
> cross-platform support issues with the AGR, including the problem you
> reference:
......


Many thanks for the response Paul. It's good to know that at least it's not
something I'm doing wrong!

I'm not a great programmer, but I am an experienced software tester with
plenty of tools under my belt, so I generally know what works and what
doesn't with regard to testing. If I can help out with anything I will, as
it's in our interests to be able to test our software well, especially
across multiple platforms as we extend our product.

Cheers,
Nick
Re: Using TPTP AGR across multiple platforms [message #104474 is a reply to message #104035] Thu, 12 July 2007 10:48 Go to previous message
Paul Slauenwhite is currently offline Paul SlauenwhiteFriend
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Senior Member
Thanks Nick,
Certainly using and testing TPTP, including opening defects/features, is
a great asset to the project and the wider user community.

Paul
"Nick Young" <nicholas.young@microfocusNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:f705pk$7rr$1@build.eclipse.org...
>
> "Paul Slauenwhite" <paules@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:f6lci7$tp6$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Hi Nick,
>> Unfortunately, there is no way for users to change the behavior of
>> Eclipse (e.g. file menu shortcuts). Also, there are several
>> cross-platform support issues with the AGR, including the problem you
>> reference:
> .....
>
>
> Many thanks for the response Paul. It's good to know that at least it's
> not something I'm doing wrong!
>
> I'm not a great programmer, but I am an experienced software tester with
> plenty of tools under my belt, so I generally know what works and what
> doesn't with regard to testing. If I can help out with anything I will, as
> it's in our interests to be able to test our software well, especially
> across multiple platforms as we extend our product.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
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