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[Xpand/Xtend 1] What future can Xpand/Xtend expect? [message #755540] Tue, 08 November 2011 13:23 Go to next message
Tatiana Fesenko is currently offline Tatiana Fesenko
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Hi,

Xtend2 is a young, but already a popular language. My congratulations to
the Xtend2 team with this success.

However, Xtend2 lacks some features that were available in old good
Xtend. For example, it's very difficult to use Xtend2 for M2M and M2T
transformations of dynamic EMF models or UML Profiled models, while
pluggable type system of Xtend1 made it quite easy. That's why it's
natural to ask what can we expect from Xtend1/Xpand1 in the future.

Are you going to implement new features?
How actively are you going to fix existing or newly reported bugs and
enhancements?
How many developers are going to work on this project?
For how many releases do you expect Xpand/Xtend1 to be a part of Eclipse
release train?

Any information regarding the future of Xpand/Xtend would be appreciated
by me and other people who used the old Xpand/Xtend for model to model
or for model to text transformations.

Thanks,
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Re: [Xpand/Xtend 1] What future can Xpand/Xtend expect? [message #755601 is a reply to message #755540] Tue, 08 November 2011 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karsten Thoms is currently offline Karsten Thoms
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Hi Tatiana,

these are valid questions, indeed. We can expect Xtend2 to close the gaps that Xpand/Xtend left in mid-term. The Xtext team has to answer this.

For Xpand the planning is to keep maintenance up some time in the future. It is not planned to implement sophisticated new features in mid-term, more to fix stabilizing or performance bugs, and keep documentation valid.

Xpand would need a major refactoring with breaking API changes to really move forward. For this there are currently not enough resources available.

Xpand will be on the Juno release train, and we can expect this for at least 2 more generations.

That's from my side.

~Karsten


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Re: [Xpand/Xtend 1] What future can Xpand/Xtend expect? [message #755959 is a reply to message #755601] Thu, 10 November 2011 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tatiana Fesenko is currently offline Tatiana Fesenko
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Thanks for your response Karsten.

> these are valid questions, indeed. We can expect Xtend2 to close the
> gaps that Xpand/Xtend left in mid-term. The Xtext team has to answer
this.

That's good news, do you think it worth filing these issues in the
Xtend2 bugzilla to keep track of them?

> For Xpand the planning is to keep maintenance up some time in the
> future. It is not planned to implement sophisticated new features in
> mid-term, more to fix stabilizing or performance bugs, and keep
> documentation valid.
>
> Xpand would need a major refactoring with breaking API changes to really
> move forward. For this there are currently not enough resources
available.
>
> Xpand will be on the Juno release train, and we can expect this for at
> least 2 more generations.
>
I am glad to hear that Xpand will be with us for several more releases.

Thanks and regards,
Tanya.


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Model-Oriented Solutions for Service Integration
Re: [Xpand/Xtend 1] What future can Xpand/Xtend expect? [message #756278 is a reply to message #755959] Fri, 11 November 2011 13:48 Go to previous message
Sven Efftinge is currently offline Sven Efftinge
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Am 11/10/11 11:27 AM, schrieb Tatiana Fesenko:
> Thanks for your response Karsten.
>
>> these are valid questions, indeed. We can expect Xtend2 to close the
>> gaps that Xpand/Xtend left in mid-term. The Xtext team has to answer
> this.
>
> That's good news, do you think it worth filing these issues in the
> Xtend2 bugzilla to keep track of them?

I'm sorry, but I have to say that we don't plan to add support for a
pluggable type system in the near future.

Sven

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