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e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #652729] Sat, 05 February 2011 22:35 Go to next message
Karl Weber is currently offline Karl Weber
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Hi, I downloaded Eclipse 4.1M5 today and started to play a little bit around with it.

My environment is openSUSE 11.3 64bit with KDE4 -- default theme.

Unfortunately e4 (4.1M5) seems to be quite buggy. I could help by writing bug reports but I do not want to flood you with reports about errors you already know. Furthermore, some dumps only occur because I am doing things the wrong way -- either because I do not find documentation or because the documentation I am reading is already outdated....

Do you have any ideas?

Problems I noticed so far:

The UI does not look nice in my environment, which seems to be related to the KDE4-theme I am using. I have similar problems with eclipse 3.6. For certain other themes these problems do not appear (with eclipse 3.6, I didn't check that for e4).

The rest only happens with e4:

The UI is not redrawn properly. If I play around with the parts in the IDE, the tabs and or menus are sometimes not drawn.

Some changes are not synchronized properly to other files (e.g. from product -> plugin.xml). I have to close a file and open it again.

Help does not work in the e4xmi editor. Example: I have to add addons for a main menu and a toolbar to work. If I add an addon and press find for the class URI, I do not find the eclipse addons. I could insert them only with a text editor.

Copy and past does not work in various editors (with Crtl+C and Ctrl+V). Sometimes it works with the context menu.

The contacts example dumps -- it does not even start up.

The photo example dumps also, but it does start up...

...
Re: e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #652753 is a reply to message #652729] Sun, 06 February 2011 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
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Hi Karl,

Please report any problems you find!

Am 05.02.11 23:35, schrieb karl.weber99@googlemail.com:
> Hi, I downloaded Eclipse 4.1M5 today and started to play a little bit
> around with it.
>
> My environment is openSUSE 11.3 64bit with KDE4 -- default theme.
>
> Unfortunately e4 (4.1M5) seems to be quite buggy. I could help by
> writing bug reports but I do not want to flood you with reports about
> errors you already know. Furthermore, some dumps only occur because I am
> doing things the wrong way -- either because I do not find documentation
> or because the documentation I am reading is already outdated....
>
> Do you have any ideas?
>
> Problems I noticed so far:
>
> The UI does not look nice in my environment, which seems to be related
> to the KDE4-theme I am using. I have similar problems with eclipse 3.6.
> For certain other themes these problems do not appear (with eclipse 3.6,
> I didn't check that for e4).

What does this mean? Does it not integrate into the L&F?

> The rest only happens with e4:
>
> The UI is not redrawn properly. If I play around with the parts in the
> IDE, the tabs and or menus are sometimes not drawn.

Please file a bug. So that we can reproduce.

>
> Some changes are not synchronized properly to other files (e.g. from
> product -> plugin.xml). I have to close a file and open it again.
>

That's strange because this something happening on the lower level
because we are reusing the PDE code unmodified.

> Help does not work in the e4xmi editor. Example: I have to add addons

Help?

> for a main menu and a toolbar to work. If I add an addon and press find
> for the class URI, I do not find the eclipse addons. I could insert them
> only with a text editor.
>

The find is only searching inside your plug-in (currently not even the
classpath).

> Copy and past does not work in various editors (with Crtl+C and Ctrl+V).
> Sometimes it works with the context menu.
>

That's a known problem. See
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=321019

There are a lot things in the Model-Tooling that needs work but
apparently I'm not having enough spare time :-(

I can only hope that I can find the time to work on this but I can't
guarantee.

> The contacts example dumps -- it does not even start up.
>

That's unexpected? Can you file a bug and attach a stack?

> The photo example dumps also, but it does start up...
>

That's unexpected? Can you file a bug and attach a stack?

Tom
Re: e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #652863 is a reply to message #652729] Mon, 07 February 2011 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Webster is currently offline Paul Webster
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Location: Ottawa
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On 02/05/2011 05:35 PM, karl.weber99@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, I downloaded Eclipse 4.1M5 today and started to play a little bit
> around with it.
>
> My environment is openSUSE 11.3 64bit with KDE4 -- default theme.



>
> The UI is not redrawn properly. If I play around with the parts in the
> IDE, the tabs and or menus are sometimes not drawn.

What gtk2 do you have installed? I recently came across a painting
problem that seems to manifest in 64-bit Fedora 14 (at least on my home
box, which is a quad-core):

gtk2-2.22.0-1.fc14.1.x86_64

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=333965


> Copy and past does not work in various editors (with Crtl+C and Ctrl+V).
> Sometimes it works with the context menu.

These we need case-by-case examples of failures (I'd expect them more in
the multi-page editors). The Java and Text editor seem pretty stable.

> The contacts example dumps -- it does not even start up.
> The photo example dumps also, but it does start up...

These depend on the .product file. I can see that contacts.product
doesn't include the swt linux.gtk.x86_64 fragment, for example. You can
open the configuration using Run>Run Configurations and use "Add
Required Plug-in" to make sure it has all of your platform fragments.

PW


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Re: e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #653001 is a reply to message #652863] Mon, 07 February 2011 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl Weber is currently offline Karl Weber
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Paul Webster wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 07:26

On 02/05/2011 05:35 PM, karl.weber99 wrote:
>
> The UI is not redrawn properly. If I play around with the parts in the
> IDE, the tabs and or menus are sometimes not drawn.

What gtk2 do you have installed? I recently came across a painting
problem that seems to manifest in 64-bit Fedora 14 (at least on my home
box, which is a quad-core):

gtk2-2.22.0-1.fc14.1.x86_64

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=333965


Maybe it's the same problem. I added (too much) to the bug report.
Re: e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #653995 is a reply to message #652753] Sat, 12 February 2011 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl Weber is currently offline Karl Weber
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Tom Schindl wrote on Sun, 06 February 2011 06:19

Am 05.02.11 23:35, schrieb karl.weber99:
[...]
> Problems I noticed so far:
>
> The UI does not look nice in my environment, which seems to be related
> to the KDE4-theme I am using. I have similar problems with eclipse 3.6.
> For certain other themes these problems do not appear (with eclipse 3.6,
> I didn't check that for e4).

What does this mean? Does it not integrate into the L&F?




Yes, but I do not know, whether it is the fault of the gtk-style or of eclipse.

I am using KDE4 with the oxygen style and with the gtk-style oxygen-molecule for gtk-applications. Part of the phenomenon can be seen in the screenshots I added to the bug report https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=333965, e.g. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=188480. As you can see, the toolbar buttons are displayed as grey squares with the icons printed on them. The toolbar buttons do not assume the background color, they are always grey, also, e.g. in the headers of forms, where the background color should be something like blue. Furthermore, when I use css-styling, the background color of the toolbar buttons is not affected.

This depends on the gtk-style I am using. For a handfull of gtk-styles the effect is as described, for other styles, the buttons assume the background color as expected.

Although this might point to the gtk-styles as cause, I am not sure about that, since I can observe this effect only with eclipse, not with any other gtk-application I am using.

As mentioned, this problem can be observed with eclipse 3.6 and 4.1M5.

Another problem is the border of text fields in eclipse forms. If they are multiline, they have borders with one black line, I think one pixel wide. One-line textfields have two black border lines of different size for certain gtk-styles, which does not look nice.

Do you have any idea?
Re: e4 pretty buggy -- how to help? [message #900416 is a reply to message #652729] Mon, 06 August 2012 23:17 Go to previous message
Phaedrus The Greek is currently offline Phaedrus The Greek
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I'm just gonna say it: Green doesn't work for me when moving tabs around. How can I change that color or improve the appearance of the position indicator?
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