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RE: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today [message #571340] Fri, 13 January 2006 05:19
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The PDE (plugin development environment) build process is designed to
build eclipse plugins based on the natural manifest definitions. You use
the build.properties files to indicate the content of binary and source
builds. It would probably be best to contact someone from the WTP project
to setup the build process. They have a nice setup which not only builds
the plugins but it also scans for a number of violations and runs a series
of defined bvt test cases.

Regards,
Dan





"Sakala, Adinarayana" <ASAKALA@iona.com>
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Dan, I am new to eclipse process. If Eclipse has a standard build system
that every project is mandatory to use then it totally makes sense to use
the same system for STP as well. But if individual projects can adopt
different ones then worth looking into Maven.

- Adi

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I am against using maven for the build system. Maven is a wise choice for
these runtime projects. For eclipse projects there is no reason we should
not be using the eclipsed based builds which read the manifest
information. I don't know of any eclipse project that isn't using the
eclipse build process.

Regards,
Dan




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> 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the
> IRC next weeks IRC
I would like to strongly recommend using Maven 2 for build system.
Both Tuscany and Celtix projects are using maven and i assume it will be a
good logical thing to use.

thanks,
Adi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trieloff, Carl
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: Gateway between eclipse.stp and stp-newsgroup
> Subject: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today
>
>
>
>
> Two actions from IRC today.
>
> 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the
> IRC next weeks IRC
> 2. Get the basic pages up for STP project on eclipse.org
>
> Regards
> Carl.
>
>
>
>
> [12:03] cctrieloff: It does not seem that everyone got the
> details for the IRC today.
> [12:04] cctrieloff: We will wait a few minutes and then get started
> [12:05] cctrieloff: did you get it from the list?
> [12:05] rmarins: I'm fine. yes, I got from the newsgroup
> [12:05] cctrieloff: great, I have 4 guys on the phone, that
> could get onto IRC, so I will act as the bridge
> [12:06] rmarins: it'll hard for you, but let's see how works
> [12:07] cctrieloff: have you got your committer setup back
> from the eclipse EMO for STP yet?
> [12:08] rmarins: yep, i sent agreements by fax yesterday
> morning, and filled up the questionary by today
> [12:09] rmarins: i mean, on my side it's almost done. I'm
> waiting for my account
> [12:09] cctrieloff: Seems to be the common state that we are
> all still waiting for accounts.
> [12:10] cctrieloff: I have been testing the dev lists and
> they have not yet come live, however I expect that CVS might be up
> [12:12] cctrieloff: For the build system we have 3 options
> [12:13] cctrieloff: we have the option form ObjectWeb, from
> Adrian and then a maven setup for build
> [12:14] cctrieloff: what we want to do is have all options
> for the build system discussed by the end of next week, and
> the we will set a team up to get a hello world building,
> build the tests, run the test and the coverage
> [12:15] cctrieloff: that sound reasonable?
> [12:15] DavidBosschaert: Sounds great!
> [12:16] cctrieloff: As an action we ask for all those that
> want to be involved in buildset to self identify and pitch in
> over the next week in working that out
> [12:16] rmarins: looks good, however I miss the point
> regarding the ObjectWeb option and from Adrian
> [12:17] cctrieloff: Someone form ObjectWeb has said that they
> would like to be involved and had some ideas around this area
> [12:17] cctrieloff: The goal will be to have a proposal to
> implement for the IRC next week
> [12:18] cctrieloff: Talking about the creation of the Website
> [12:19] cctrieloff: What I was thinking was to copy the basic
> structure from WTP for home, about , committer page and CVS
> questions etc
> [12:20] cctrieloff: I will then place our charter
> [12:21] cctrieloff: and then we will build the STP specific
> content form there, all ok with that?
> [12:21] DavidBosschaert: Sounds like a good starting point.
> [12:22] rmarins: yep. just remember: including subprojects sections
> [12:23] cctrieloff: are you saying we should include the
> subprojects in the initial setup of the page?
> [12:25] rmarins: yes, subprojects description. thus, we setup
> each subproject specific pages
> [12:25] cctrieloff: I think that we might want get the
> project text reviewed by a larger group.
> [12:25] cctrieloff: ok just the subprojects and a basic
> description, then add the pages behind that with group review?
> [12:25] rmarins: yes, that's right!
> [12:27] cctrieloff: we have closed the audio. We will action
> these two items for next week while we wait out lists and CVS
> from the EMO
> [12:28] rmarins: good. until there, discussions go under the
> current newsgroups, right?
> [12:29] cctrieloff: correct
> [12:29] cctrieloff: I will post this to the news list
> [12:29] rmarins: great
> _______________________________________________
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The PDE (plugin development environment)
build process is designed to build eclipse plugins based on the natural
manifest definitions. &nbsp;You use the build.properties files to indicate
the content of binary and source builds. &nbsp;It would probably be best
to contact someone from the WTP project to setup the build process. &nbsp;They
have a nice setup which not only builds the plugins but it also scans for
a number of violations and runs a series of defined bvt test cases.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards,<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue>Dan, I am new to eclipse process. If Eclipse
has a standard build system that every project is mandatory to use then
it totally makes sense to use the same system for STP as well. But if individual
projects can adopt different ones then worth looking into Maven.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue>- Adi</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br>
From:</b> Daniel Berg [mailto:danberg@us.ibm.com]<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:17 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Gateway between eclipse.stp and stp-newsgroup<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today<br>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I am against using maven for the build system. &nbsp;Maven is a wise choice
for these runtime projects. &nbsp;For eclipse projects there is no reason
we should not be using the eclipsed based builds which read the manifest
information. &nbsp;I don't know of any eclipse project that isn't using
the eclipse build process.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Regards,<br>
Dan<br>
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&gt; 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the <br>
&gt; IRC next weeks IRC<br>
I would like to strongly recommend using Maven 2 for build system.<br>
Both Tuscany and Celtix projects are using maven and i assume it will be
a good logical thing to use.<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
Adi <br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Trieloff, Carl <br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:50 PM<br>
&gt; To: Gateway between eclipse.stp and stp-newsgroup<br>
&gt; Subject: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Two actions from IRC today.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the <br>
&gt; IRC next weeks IRC<br>
&gt; 2. Get the basic pages up for STP project on eclipse.org<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; Carl.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; [12:03] cctrieloff: It does not seem that everyone got the <br>
&gt; details for the IRC today.<br>
&gt; [12:04] cctrieloff: We will wait a few minutes and then get started<br>
&gt; [12:05] cctrieloff: did you get it from the list?<br>
&gt; [12:05] rmarins: I'm fine. yes, I got from the newsgroup<br>
&gt; [12:05] cctrieloff: great, I have 4 guys on the phone, that <br>
&gt; could get onto IRC, so I will act as the bridge<br>
&gt; [12:06] rmarins: it'll hard for you, but let's see how works<br>
&gt; [12:07] cctrieloff: have you got your committer setup back <br>
&gt; from the eclipse EMO for STP yet?<br>
&gt; [12:08] rmarins: yep, i sent agreements by fax yesterday <br>
&gt; morning, and filled up the questionary by today<br>
&gt; [12:09] rmarins: i mean, on my side it's almost done. I'm <br>
&gt; waiting for my account<br>
&gt; [12:09] cctrieloff: Seems to be the common state that we are <br>
&gt; all still waiting for accounts.<br>
&gt; [12:10] cctrieloff: I have been testing the dev lists and <br>
&gt; they have not yet come live, however I expect that CVS might be up<br>
&gt; [12:12] cctrieloff: For the build system we have 3 options<br>
&gt; [12:13] cctrieloff: we have the option form ObjectWeb, from <br>
&gt; Adrian and then a maven setup for build<br>
&gt; [12:14] cctrieloff: what we want to do is have all options <br>
&gt; for the build system discussed by the end of next week, and <br>
&gt; the we will set a team up to get a hello world building, <br>
&gt; build the tests, run the test and the coverage<br>
&gt; [12:15] cctrieloff: that sound reasonable?<br>
&gt; [12:15] DavidBosschaert: Sounds great!<br>
&gt; [12:16] cctrieloff: As an action we ask for all those that <br>
&gt; want to be involved in buildset to self identify and pitch in <br>
&gt; over the next week in working that out<br>
&gt; [12:16] rmarins: looks good, however I miss the point <br>
&gt; regarding the ObjectWeb option and from Adrian<br>
&gt; [12:17] cctrieloff: Someone form ObjectWeb has said that they <br>
&gt; would like to be involved and had some ideas around this area<br>
&gt; [12:17] cctrieloff: The goal will be to have a proposal to <br>
&gt; implement for the IRC next week<br>
&gt; [12:18] cctrieloff: Talking about the creation of the Website<br>
&gt; [12:19] cctrieloff: What I was thinking was to copy the basic <br>
&gt; structure from WTP for home, about , committer page and CVS <br>
&gt; questions etc<br>
&gt; [12:20] cctrieloff: I will then place our charter<br>
&gt; [12:21] cctrieloff: and then we will build the STP specific <br>
&gt; content form there, all ok with that?<br>
&gt; [12:21] DavidBosschaert: Sounds like a good starting point.<br>
&gt; [12:22] rmarins: yep. just remember: including subprojects sections<br>
&gt; [12:23] cctrieloff: are you saying we should include the <br>
&gt; subprojects in the initial setup of the page?<br>
&gt; [12:25] rmarins: yes, subprojects description. thus, we setup <br>
&gt; each subproject specific pages <br>
&gt; [12:25] cctrieloff: I think that we might want get the <br>
&gt; project text reviewed by a larger group.<br>
&gt; [12:25] cctrieloff: ok just the subprojects and a basic <br>
&gt; description, then add the pages behind that with group review?<br>
&gt; [12:25] rmarins: yes, that's right!<br>
&gt; [12:27] cctrieloff: we have closed the audio. We will action <br>
&gt; these two items for next week while we wait out lists and CVS <br>
&gt; from the EMO<br>
&gt; [12:28] rmarins: good. until there, discussions go under the <br>
&gt; current newsgroups, right?<br>
&gt; [12:29] cctrieloff: correct<br>
&gt; [12:29] cctrieloff: I will post this to the news list<br>
&gt; [12:29] rmarins: great<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; stp-newsgroup mailing list<br>
&gt; stp-newsgroup@eclipse.org<br>
&gt; https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/stp-newsgroup<br>
&gt; <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
stp-newsgroup mailing list<br>
stp-newsgroup@eclipse.org<br>
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/stp-newsgroup</tt></font><font size=3><br>
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