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e4 perspectives (tab-layout) [message #562681] Sun, 23 August 2009 15:24
Marc Schlegel is currently offline Marc SchlegelFriend
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Registered: July 2009
Hello everyone

I just started having a look at e4, by following the webinars and reading about
the goals. I furthermore downloaded the available release 0.9 to get a first

And this is what this post is about. I would like to discuss the new way/layout
of a perspective. I was always happy with the way it was in 3.x but I know that
some people had problems with it. The new tab-layout approach is probably easier
for newcomers but in my opinion it just clutters the UI.

In my current work, our (.NET) programm is designed in a similar way, meaning
that it uses a lot of tabs that are embedded into another tab and I never liked
this approach there either, because it looks more complicated than it actually is.

Will there be a way to change the look back to the old one?

Or maybe we can discuss an even better way on how to do this.
Here are some of my thoughts.
A perspective is choosen for a special unit of work. When starting eclipse, I
decide what I need, In my case it is usually PDE or J2EE and in addition Team
(sometimes also SVN). Usually I dont have to switch between them very often.
It is not very likely that you will have CDT, Java, PHP, and more perspectives
open at the same time. Furthermore I would like to point to the Mylin-project
which has a huge success by its philosophy "hide what you dont need".
So, how about a perspective switcher like the old one, just a little bit more
obvious what its for (highligh, different position, etc.) and make it possible
to choose what perspectives show up in a quick-select by the user?

I hope I can contribute to e4 with this discussion. It is not my intention to
complain, rather than having the opportunity to make my beloved :) eclipse even

best regards
-- Marc Schlegel
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