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Re: Readiness of replacing a RCP app with e4 [message #540518 is a reply to message #540372] |
Wed, 16 June 2010 12:48 |
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geejay wrote:
> So the package explorer that I see in the e4 UI, is that an e4
Which e4 UI? If you mean the e4 SDK, that's just 3.6 with the
development bundles installed. If you mean the 4.0 Early Adopter SDKs,
that's the 3.6 package explorer being hosted on an e4 modeled workbench
(org.eclipse.ui.workbench).
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> I'm trying to figure how much work it would be to migrate an RCP app
> with the mentioned features into an e4 app.
Right now, 3.x plugins can run using the compatibility layer. But
certain aspects of it don't work well at the moment (menus come to mind).
In the e4 world, you can write dependency injected parts, but there is
not support for the Project Explorer, your menus and commands have to be
written using the model, not the extension points, etc.
As for effort ... you would have to put in a fair bit of effort to move
to the e4 world, or you can run some tests with the compatibility layer
and your 3.6 views/editors/etc.
PW
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Paul Webster
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menus_Extension_Mapping
http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse .platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench.htm
Paul Webster
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
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Re: Readiness of replacing a RCP app with e4 [message #540648 is a reply to message #540518] |
Wed, 16 June 2010 20:17 |
Geejay Messages: 160 Registered: February 2010 |
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Ok thanks Paul. Exactly the info I wanted.
Just one other thing - will there ever be a pure e4 project explorer? And if
so, will it be in the next year or so?
Thanks
"Paul Webster" <pwebster@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:hvah24$tjc$1@build.eclipse.org...
> geejay wrote:
>> So the package explorer that I see in the e4 UI, is that an e4
>
> Which e4 UI? If you mean the e4 SDK, that's just 3.6 with the development
> bundles installed. If you mean the 4.0 Early Adopter SDKs, that's the 3.6
> package explorer being hosted on an e4 modeled workbench
> (org.eclipse.ui.workbench).
>
>>
>> I'm trying to figure how much work it would be to migrate an RCP app with
>> the mentioned features into an e4 app.
>
> Right now, 3.x plugins can run using the compatibility layer. But certain
> aspects of it don't work well at the moment (menus come to mind).
>
> In the e4 world, you can write dependency injected parts, but there is not
> support for the Project Explorer, your menus and commands have to be
> written using the model, not the extension points, etc.
>
> As for effort ... you would have to put in a fair bit of effort to move to
> the e4 world, or you can run some tests with the compatibility layer and
> your 3.6 views/editors/etc.
>
> PW
>
>
> --
> Paul Webster
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menus_Extension_Mapping
> http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse .platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench.htm
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Re: Readiness of replacing a RCP app with e4 [message #577841 is a reply to message #540372] |
Wed, 16 June 2010 12:48 |
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geejay wrote:
> So the package explorer that I see in the e4 UI, is that an e4
Which e4 UI? If you mean the e4 SDK, that's just 3.6 with the
development bundles installed. If you mean the 4.0 Early Adopter SDKs,
that's the 3.6 package explorer being hosted on an e4 modeled workbench
(org.eclipse.ui.workbench).
>
> I'm trying to figure how much work it would be to migrate an RCP app
> with the mentioned features into an e4 app.
Right now, 3.x plugins can run using the compatibility layer. But
certain aspects of it don't work well at the moment (menus come to mind).
In the e4 world, you can write dependency injected parts, but there is
not support for the Project Explorer, your menus and commands have to be
written using the model, not the extension points, etc.
As for effort ... you would have to put in a fair bit of effort to move
to the e4 world, or you can run some tests with the compatibility layer
and your 3.6 views/editors/etc.
PW
--
Paul Webster
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menus_Extension_Mapping
http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse .platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench.htm
Paul Webster
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
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Re: Readiness of replacing a RCP app with e4 [message #577874 is a reply to message #577841] |
Wed, 16 June 2010 20:17 |
Geejay Messages: 160 Registered: February 2010 |
Senior Member |
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Ok thanks Paul. Exactly the info I wanted.
Just one other thing - will there ever be a pure e4 project explorer? And if
so, will it be in the next year or so?
Thanks
"Paul Webster" <pwebster@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:hvah24$tjc$1@build.eclipse.org...
> geejay wrote:
>> So the package explorer that I see in the e4 UI, is that an e4
>
> Which e4 UI? If you mean the e4 SDK, that's just 3.6 with the development
> bundles installed. If you mean the 4.0 Early Adopter SDKs, that's the 3.6
> package explorer being hosted on an e4 modeled workbench
> (org.eclipse.ui.workbench).
>
>>
>> I'm trying to figure how much work it would be to migrate an RCP app with
>> the mentioned features into an e4 app.
>
> Right now, 3.x plugins can run using the compatibility layer. But certain
> aspects of it don't work well at the moment (menus come to mind).
>
> In the e4 world, you can write dependency injected parts, but there is not
> support for the Project Explorer, your menus and commands have to be
> written using the model, not the extension points, etc.
>
> As for effort ... you would have to put in a fair bit of effort to move to
> the e4 world, or you can run some tests with the compatibility layer and
> your 3.6 views/editors/etc.
>
> PW
>
>
> --
> Paul Webster
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menus_Extension_Mapping
> http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse .platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench.htm
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