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Michael Schneider is currently offline Michael Schneider
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Hello all together,

I have a small question, when will babel build the next time (no nightly
build)?

In advance thank you for the response times.

Sincerely
Re: Babel Build [message #485736 is a reply to message #482035] Mon, 14 September 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse Webmaster is currently offline Eclipse Webmaster
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On 08/25/2009 04:07 AM, Michael Schneider wrote:
> Hello all together,
>
> I have a small question, when will babel build the next time (no nightly
> build)?
>
> In advance thank you for the response times.
>
> Sincerely
>
>

We will rebuild the Galileo language packs when Galileo SR1 is released
(which will be soon) and the Helios stream of Nightly Builds is
currently planned via bug http://bugs.eclipse.org/289376 .

Denis
Re: Babel Build [message #485762 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 14 September 2009 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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Is SR1 also going to address this bug (which affects Babel significantly,
but its source lies elsewhere according to follow-up links I put there, the
issue was "closed" by WTP, but the problem is still out there for all of
Eclipse, especially Babel ;-/)
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288030

Thanks,
Werner
Fw: Re: Babel Build [message #485790 is a reply to message #485762] Tue, 15 September 2009 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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I reopened 288030 but phrased the WTP relation out.
Since it happens in other places, too. And every Galieo distro that is
applied the "basic" Babel translations (tried that with German, I don't
suppose it is language-dependant though)

Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #488479 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 28 September 2009 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marco  Lehmann-Mörz is currently offline Marco Lehmann-Mörz
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Member
Hi Denis,

any updates here?

TIA,
Marco


Denis Roy schrieb:
> On 08/25/2009 04:07 AM, Michael Schneider wrote:
>> Hello all together,
>>
>> I have a small question, when will babel build the next time (no nightly
>> build)?
>>
>> In advance thank you for the response times.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>>
>
> We will rebuild the Galileo language packs when Galileo SR1 is released
> (which will be soon) and the Helios stream of Nightly Builds is
> currently planned via bug http://bugs.eclipse.org/289376 .
>
> Denis
Re: Babel Build [message #489222 is a reply to message #488479] Thu, 01 October 2009 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
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I saw Galileo went 3.5.1, but as the mentioned bug has not been closed, I
assume it is still in there, too?;-)

(unless it was fixed elsewhere without notifying Babel or checking
Bugzilla...?)

Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #489611 is a reply to message #489222] Mon, 05 October 2009 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Stern is currently offline Stefan Stern
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Hi,

we stumbled across this bug, too. Right now, I fixed the language pack
manually and rebuilt it here. Do you have a date for the 3.5.1 language
packs already?

I wouldn't roll out a new target if the next lang packs are a week away.

Thanks and regards,
Stefan


> I saw Galileo went 3.5.1, but as the mentioned bug has not been closed,
> I assume it is still in there, too?;-)
>
> (unless it was fixed elsewhere without notifying Babel or checking
> Bugzilla...?)
>
> Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #489667 is a reply to message #489611] Mon, 05 October 2009 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kit Lo is currently offline Kit Lo
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Stefan, Galileo (Eclipse 3.5.0) language packs should work for Galileo SR1 (Eclipse 3.5.1) also. The rebuild of language packs for Galileo SR1 is just to pick up newer translations since Galileo.

What and how did you fix the language packs manually? Can you share that with us? Maybe you can contribute to the Babel project?
Re: Babel Build [message #489684 is a reply to message #489667] Mon, 05 October 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Stern is currently offline Stefan Stern
Messages: 9
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Hello

We currently use the Babel packs with build id '3.5.0.v20090620043401'.
There is a bug, where the format-type string was translated into German,
which causes an Exception when opening the problems view. This bug is
known: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288030 and
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=282139

The valid translation is available, too. There was suspicion that this
problem might occur in other places as well, and therefore the bug
wasn't solved.

Right now this causes us some trouble, thats why I edited the
message-file in the JAR of the lang-pack and repaired the corrupted string.

If you plan to build within a week or so, I will not roll out my
manually fixed JAR. If you do not plan to release a build for a while, I
will use my fixed JAR and hope the bug won't reappear in other places.

Regards,
Stefan



Kit Lo schrieb:
> Stefan, Galileo (Eclipse 3.5.0) language packs should work for Galileo
> SR1 (Eclipse 3.5.1) also. The rebuild of language packs for Galileo SR1
> is just to pick up newer translations since Galileo.
>
> What and how did you fix the language packs manually? Can you share that
> with us? Maybe you can contribute to the Babel project?
Re: Babel Build [message #492110 is a reply to message #489684] Sun, 18 October 2009 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 1083
Registered: July 2009
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I know one of them, as I filed or at least re-assigned it to Babel (after
WTP correctly assumed, it had no direct relation to their project)

How would a particular translation get broken or corrupted? It is basically
just strings in the first place. And while encoding or special characters
matter in some RCP apps, that should not be a problem here either. As it is
common to all translations.

Or are the scripts for "Genie" or similar tasks different for some languages
from others?

I'd be happy to understand this or even see Galileo SP1 have fewer of these
issues before I speak at ESE in about 10 days.
The challenges are certainly an interesting topic if the short session even
allows such details?

On a slightly different Babel "front" which is Multimedia Localization I am
making good progress with STEM. They got a Spanish translation and I'm
currently working on the German one with a partner who's a professional
speaker and voice over.

Regards,
Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #496187 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 09 November 2009 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Schneider is currently offline Michael Schneider
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Is there anything new ?
We have already November.

Thank you
Re: Babel Build [message #504004 is a reply to message #496187] Wed, 16 December 2009 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kit Lo is currently offline Kit Lo
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Babel Language Packs 0.7.1 are now available at: http://www.eclipse.org/babel/downloads.php for a few weeks. Forgot to cross post here at the forum Smile
Re: Babel Build [message #579671 is a reply to message #482035] Mon, 14 September 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse Webmaster is currently offline Eclipse Webmaster
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On 08/25/2009 04:07 AM, Michael Schneider wrote:
> Hello all together,
>
> I have a small question, when will babel build the next time (no nightly
> build)?
>
> In advance thank you for the response times.
>
> Sincerely
>
>

We will rebuild the Galileo language packs when Galileo SR1 is released
(which will be soon) and the Helios stream of Nightly Builds is
currently planned via bug http://bugs.eclipse.org/289376 .

Denis
Re: Babel Build [message #579713 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 14 September 2009 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 1083
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Is SR1 also going to address this bug (which affects Babel significantly,
but its source lies elsewhere according to follow-up links I put there, the
issue was "closed" by WTP, but the problem is still out there for all of
Eclipse, especially Babel ;-/)
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288030

Thanks,
Werner
Fw: Re: Babel Build [message #579732 is a reply to message #485762] Tue, 15 September 2009 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 1083
Registered: July 2009
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I reopened 288030 but phrased the WTP relation out.
Since it happens in other places, too. And every Galieo distro that is
applied the "basic" Babel translations (tried that with German, I don't
suppose it is language-dependant though)

Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #579802 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 28 September 2009 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marco  Lehmann-Mörz is currently offline Marco Lehmann-Mörz
Messages: 53
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Member
Hi Denis,

any updates here?

TIA,
Marco


Denis Roy schrieb:
> On 08/25/2009 04:07 AM, Michael Schneider wrote:
>> Hello all together,
>>
>> I have a small question, when will babel build the next time (no nightly
>> build)?
>>
>> In advance thank you for the response times.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>>
>
> We will rebuild the Galileo language packs when Galileo SR1 is released
> (which will be soon) and the Helios stream of Nightly Builds is
> currently planned via bug http://bugs.eclipse.org/289376 .
>
> Denis
Re: Babel Build [message #579812 is a reply to message #488479] Thu, 01 October 2009 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 1083
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I saw Galileo went 3.5.1, but as the mentioned bug has not been closed, I
assume it is still in there, too?;-)

(unless it was fixed elsewhere without notifying Babel or checking
Bugzilla...?)

Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #579824 is a reply to message #489222] Mon, 05 October 2009 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Stern is currently offline Stefan Stern
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi,

we stumbled across this bug, too. Right now, I fixed the language pack
manually and rebuilt it here. Do you have a date for the 3.5.1 language
packs already?

I wouldn't roll out a new target if the next lang packs are a week away.

Thanks and regards,
Stefan


> I saw Galileo went 3.5.1, but as the mentioned bug has not been closed,
> I assume it is still in there, too?;-)
>
> (unless it was fixed elsewhere without notifying Babel or checking
> Bugzilla...?)
>
> Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #579836 is a reply to message #489611] Mon, 05 October 2009 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kit Lo is currently offline Kit Lo
Messages: 100
Registered: July 2009
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Stefan, Galileo (Eclipse 3.5.0) language packs should work for Galileo SR1 (Eclipse 3.5.1) also. The rebuild of language packs for Galileo SR1 is just to pick up newer translations since Galileo.

What and how did you fix the language packs manually? Can you share that with us? Maybe you can contribute to the Babel project?
Re: Babel Build [message #579852 is a reply to message #579836] Mon, 05 October 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Stern is currently offline Stefan Stern
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hello

We currently use the Babel packs with build id '3.5.0.v20090620043401'.
There is a bug, where the format-type string was translated into German,
which causes an Exception when opening the problems view. This bug is
known: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288030 and
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=282139

The valid translation is available, too. There was suspicion that this
problem might occur in other places as well, and therefore the bug
wasn't solved.

Right now this causes us some trouble, thats why I edited the
message-file in the JAR of the lang-pack and repaired the corrupted string.

If you plan to build within a week or so, I will not roll out my
manually fixed JAR. If you do not plan to release a build for a while, I
will use my fixed JAR and hope the bug won't reappear in other places.

Regards,
Stefan



Kit Lo schrieb:
> Stefan, Galileo (Eclipse 3.5.0) language packs should work for Galileo
> SR1 (Eclipse 3.5.1) also. The rebuild of language packs for Galileo SR1
> is just to pick up newer translations since Galileo.
>
> What and how did you fix the language packs manually? Can you share that
> with us? Maybe you can contribute to the Babel project?
Re: Babel Build [message #579890 is a reply to message #489684] Sun, 18 October 2009 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner Keil
Messages: 1083
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I know one of them, as I filed or at least re-assigned it to Babel (after
WTP correctly assumed, it had no direct relation to their project)

How would a particular translation get broken or corrupted? It is basically
just strings in the first place. And while encoding or special characters
matter in some RCP apps, that should not be a problem here either. As it is
common to all translations.

Or are the scripts for "Genie" or similar tasks different for some languages
from others?

I'd be happy to understand this or even see Galileo SP1 have fewer of these
issues before I speak at ESE in about 10 days.
The challenges are certainly an interesting topic if the short session even
allows such details?

On a slightly different Babel "front" which is Multimedia Localization I am
making good progress with STEM. They got a Spanish translation and I'm
currently working on the German one with a partner who's a professional
speaker and voice over.

Regards,
Werner
Re: Babel Build [message #580085 is a reply to message #485736] Mon, 09 November 2009 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Schneider is currently offline Michael Schneider
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Is there anything new ?
We have already November.

Thank you
Re: Babel Build [message #580120 is a reply to message #496187] Wed, 16 December 2009 19:14 Go to previous message
Kit Lo is currently offline Kit Lo
Messages: 100
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Babel Language Packs 0.7.1 are now available at: http://www.eclipse.org/babel/downloads.php for a few weeks. Forgot to cross post here at the forum :)
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