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Amalgam downloads available [message #383565] Sat, 06 December 2008 08:15 Go to next message
Richard Gronback is currently offline Richard Gronback
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In case you didn't notice, Amalgam is now providing downloads:
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/amalgam/downloads/

Three packages are currently available:

Eclipse Modeling Tools - an Eclipse Packaging Project deliverable that
includes most Modeling project SDKs, and will be delivered with Galileo.

DSL Toolkit - A set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse product
that focuses on the needs of a modeling Toolsmith; that is, it provides EMF,
GMF, OCL, QVT, Xpand, UML and other capabilities. It also includes the
sample projects from the book "Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain Specific
Language Toolkit" (http://safari.informit.com:80/9780321591364 - yes, a
shameless plug)

Modeler - A lightweight set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse
product that focuses on the needs of a modeling Practitioner; that is, it
provides UML and BPMN diagramming capabilities.

Feedback and contributions welcome, as always.

Thanks,
Rich
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #383567 is a reply to message #383565] Sun, 07 December 2008 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sven Efftinge is currently offline Sven Efftinge
Messages: 1759
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Rich,

thanks for the work.
I wonder how it is decided or who decides what components e.g. "DSL
Toolkit" is made of?
I mean, why is ATL or EcoreTools not included for instance?
And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?

Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
confuse users.

Cheers,
Sven


Richard Gronback schrieb:
> In case you didn't notice, Amalgam is now providing downloads:
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/amalgam/downloads/
>
> Three packages are currently available:
>
> Eclipse Modeling Tools - an Eclipse Packaging Project deliverable that
> includes most Modeling project SDKs, and will be delivered with Galileo.
>
> DSL Toolkit - A set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse product
> that focuses on the needs of a modeling Toolsmith; that is, it provides EMF,
> GMF, OCL, QVT, Xpand, UML and other capabilities. It also includes the
> sample projects from the book "Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain Specific
> Language Toolkit" (http://safari.informit.com:80/9780321591364 - yes, a
> shameless plug)
>
> Modeler - A lightweight set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse
> product that focuses on the needs of a modeling Practitioner; that is, it
> provides UML and BPMN diagramming capabilities.
>
> Feedback and contributions welcome, as always.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>


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Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #383569 is a reply to message #383567] Sun, 07 December 2008 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Gronback is currently offline Richard Gronback
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Hi Sven,

See below...

Thanks,
Rich


On 12/7/08 5:00 PM, in article ghhh2c$55i$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
> thanks for the work.
> I wonder how it is decided or who decides what components e.g. "DSL
> Toolkit" is made of?

So far, it's been me, and those who have opened bugs to have additional
components added (e.g. SCA modeling to the Modeler download). Additional
information can be found on the Amalgam wiki:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/ModelingAmalgam

> I mean, why is ATL or EcoreTools not included for instance?

Frankly, because I started with those technologies I included in the book.
I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
contributions are welcome.

> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?

Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>
> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.

Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
what I needed. And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
feel better.

> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
> confuse users.

Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.

>
> Cheers,
> Sven
>
>
> Richard Gronback schrieb:
>> In case you didn't notice, Amalgam is now providing downloads:
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/amalgam/downloads/
>>
>> Three packages are currently available:
>>
>> Eclipse Modeling Tools - an Eclipse Packaging Project deliverable that
>> includes most Modeling project SDKs, and will be delivered with Galileo.
>>
>> DSL Toolkit - A set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse product
>> that focuses on the needs of a modeling Toolsmith; that is, it provides EMF,
>> GMF, OCL, QVT, Xpand, UML and other capabilities. It also includes the
>> sample projects from the book "Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain Specific
>> Language Toolkit" (http://safari.informit.com:80/9780321591364 - yes, a
>> shameless plug)
>>
>> Modeler - A lightweight set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse
>> product that focuses on the needs of a modeling Practitioner; that is, it
>> provides UML and BPMN diagramming capabilities.
>>
>> Feedback and contributions welcome, as always.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #383570 is a reply to message #383569] Mon, 08 December 2008 05:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sven Efftinge is currently offline Sven Efftinge
Messages: 1759
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Rich,

> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
> contributions are welcome.

great, thanks.

>
>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>
> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>
> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
> what I needed.

We'll be glad to help you with the build.

And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
> feel better.

Yes, please.

>
>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>> confuse users.
>
> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.

Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
January 20th?

Cheers,
Sven


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Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #383572 is a reply to message #383570] Mon, 08 December 2008 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Gronback is currently offline Richard Gronback
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi Sven,

I created a wiki page for the January call and added the Xpand topic.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting%2C_2009-01-20

Best,
Rich


On 12/8/08 5:01 AM, in article ghirag$55f$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
>> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
>> contributions are welcome.
>
> great, thanks.
>
>>
>>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>>
>> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>>
>> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
>> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
>> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
>> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
>> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
>> what I needed.
>
> We'll be glad to help you with the build.
>
> And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
>> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
>> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
>> feel better.
>
> Yes, please.
>
>>
>>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>>> confuse users.
>>
>> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.
>
> Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
> 15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
> January 20th?
>
> Cheers,
> Sven
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #480206 is a reply to message #383572] Fri, 14 August 2009 07:17 Go to previous message
Jack Liao is currently offline Jack Liao
Messages: 18
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Richard Gronback 写道:
> Hi Sven,
>
> I created a wiki page for the January call and added the Xpand topic.
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting%2C_2009-01-20
>
> Best,
> Rich
>
>
> On 12/8/08 5:01 AM, in article ghirag$55f$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
> Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>>> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
>>> contributions are welcome.
>> great, thanks.
>>
>>>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>>> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>>>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>>>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>>> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
>>> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
>>> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
>>> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
>>> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
>>> what I needed.
>> We'll be glad to help you with the build.
>>
>> And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
>>> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
>>> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
>>> feel better.
>> Yes, please.
>>
>>>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>>>> confuse users.
>>> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.
>> Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
>> 15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
>> January 20th?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sven
>
Hi guys,

Could you tell me where can I download the "Older Versions" of Amalgam
Modeler?

Just like for "Eclipse Ganymede SR2"?

Best regards,

Jack Liao
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #613631 is a reply to message #383565] Sun, 07 December 2008 17:00 Go to previous message
Sven Efftinge is currently offline Sven Efftinge
Messages: 1759
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Rich,

thanks for the work.
I wonder how it is decided or who decides what components e.g. "DSL
Toolkit" is made of?
I mean, why is ATL or EcoreTools not included for instance?
And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?

Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
confuse users.

Cheers,
Sven


Richard Gronback schrieb:
> In case you didn't notice, Amalgam is now providing downloads:
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/amalgam/downloads/
>
> Three packages are currently available:
>
> Eclipse Modeling Tools - an Eclipse Packaging Project deliverable that
> includes most Modeling project SDKs, and will be delivered with Galileo.
>
> DSL Toolkit - A set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse product
> that focuses on the needs of a modeling Toolsmith; that is, it provides EMF,
> GMF, OCL, QVT, Xpand, UML and other capabilities. It also includes the
> sample projects from the book "Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain Specific
> Language Toolkit" (http://safari.informit.com:80/9780321591364 - yes, a
> shameless plug)
>
> Modeler - A lightweight set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse
> product that focuses on the needs of a modeling Practitioner; that is, it
> provides UML and BPMN diagramming capabilities.
>
> Feedback and contributions welcome, as always.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>


--
Need professional support on Xtext or Xtend?
Mail to: xtext (at) itemis.com
Twitter : @svenefftinge
Blog : blog.efftinge.de
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #613635 is a reply to message #383567] Sun, 07 December 2008 20:11 Go to previous message
Richard Gronback is currently offline Richard Gronback
Messages: 605
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Sven,

See below...

Thanks,
Rich


On 12/7/08 5:00 PM, in article ghhh2c$55i$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
> thanks for the work.
> I wonder how it is decided or who decides what components e.g. "DSL
> Toolkit" is made of?

So far, it's been me, and those who have opened bugs to have additional
components added (e.g. SCA modeling to the Modeler download). Additional
information can be found on the Amalgam wiki:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/ModelingAmalgam

> I mean, why is ATL or EcoreTools not included for instance?

Frankly, because I started with those technologies I included in the book.
I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
contributions are welcome.

> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?

Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>
> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.

Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
what I needed. And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
feel better.

> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
> confuse users.

Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.

>
> Cheers,
> Sven
>
>
> Richard Gronback schrieb:
>> In case you didn't notice, Amalgam is now providing downloads:
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/amalgam/downloads/
>>
>> Three packages are currently available:
>>
>> Eclipse Modeling Tools - an Eclipse Packaging Project deliverable that
>> includes most Modeling project SDKs, and will be delivered with Galileo.
>>
>> DSL Toolkit - A set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse product
>> that focuses on the needs of a modeling Toolsmith; that is, it provides EMF,
>> GMF, OCL, QVT, Xpand, UML and other capabilities. It also includes the
>> sample projects from the book "Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain Specific
>> Language Toolkit" (http://safari.informit.com:80/9780321591364 - yes, a
>> shameless plug)
>>
>> Modeler - A lightweight set of modeling technologies delivered as an Eclipse
>> product that focuses on the needs of a modeling Practitioner; that is, it
>> provides UML and BPMN diagramming capabilities.
>>
>> Feedback and contributions welcome, as always.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #613639 is a reply to message #383569] Mon, 08 December 2008 05:01 Go to previous message
Sven Efftinge is currently offline Sven Efftinge
Messages: 1759
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Rich,

> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
> contributions are welcome.

great, thanks.

>
>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>
> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>
> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
> what I needed.

We'll be glad to help you with the build.

And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
> feel better.

Yes, please.

>
>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>> confuse users.
>
> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.

Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
January 20th?

Cheers,
Sven


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Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #613641 is a reply to message #383570] Mon, 08 December 2008 06:52 Go to previous message
Richard Gronback is currently offline Richard Gronback
Messages: 605
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Sven,

I created a wiki page for the January call and added the Xpand topic.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting%2C_2009-01-20

Best,
Rich


On 12/8/08 5:01 AM, in article ghirag$55f$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
>> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
>> contributions are welcome.
>
> great, thanks.
>
>>
>>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>>
>> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>>
>> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
>> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
>> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
>> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
>> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
>> what I needed.
>
> We'll be glad to help you with the build.
>
> And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
>> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
>> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
>> feel better.
>
> Yes, please.
>
>>
>>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>>> confuse users.
>>
>> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.
>
> Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
> 15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
> January 20th?
>
> Cheers,
> Sven
Re: Amalgam downloads available [message #617769 is a reply to message #383572] Fri, 14 August 2009 07:17 Go to previous message
Jack Liao is currently offline Jack Liao
Messages: 18
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Richard Gronback 写道:
> Hi Sven,
>
> I created a wiki page for the January call and added the Xpand topic.
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting%2C_2009-01-20
>
> Best,
> Rich
>
>
> On 12/8/08 5:01 AM, in article ghirag$55f$1@build.eclipse.org, "Sven
> Efftinge" <sven.efftinge@itemis.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>>> I'm fine with adding additional components, but as always at Eclipse,
>>> contributions are welcome.
>> great, thanks.
>>
>>>> And what do we have to do in order to get TMF Xtext included in it?
>>> Open a bug. I'd like very much to add a TMF component.
>>>> Also I don't think it's a good idea to claim, that "Xpand" is included
>>>> as long as it just includes the customized version you have under GMF.
>>> Check out the Ganymede version of the DSL Toolkit. There, you'll find the
>>> original Xpand and MWE components. In the newer version, which I use for
>>> Galileo releng, I needed to combine QVT and Xpand invocation in an Ant to
>>> automate the process. Given the support I can get from GMF's Xpand and QVT
>>> is a bit better than Xpand and MWE as of late, it was the easiest way to get
>>> what I needed.
>> We'll be glad to help you with the build.
>>
>> And, I do prefer the direction that GMF's Xpand is making in
>>> terms of leveraging OCL and QVTO. I can certainly clarify in the
>>> description which version of Xpand that's included, if it would make you
>>> feel better.
>> Yes, please.
>>
>>>> As Xpand is an active project with working builds under M2T this might
>>>> confuse users.
>>> Well, we can continue this discussion on the next PMC call, I suppose.
>> Yes, that makes sense to me. Unfortunately I'll be on vacation from dec
>> 15th till january 5th. So maybe we can discuss it on the PMC call on
>> January 20th?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sven
>
Hi guys,

Could you tell me where can I download the "Older Versions" of Amalgam
Modeler?

Just like for "Eclipse Ganymede SR2"?

Best regards,

Jack Liao
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