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Re: Reusing SCA Service Implementations [message #2947] Wed, 01 October 2008 08:49 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: mickael.istria.openwide.fr

Oops,

I clicked "Reply" without checking the forum.
Sorry for the spam...

Mickael

Mickael Istria a écrit :
> Hi Michael, all
>
> Michael Gebhart a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> when using the SCA editor to create my service architecture, I can
>> easily implement services. I can write a java class and set it as the
>> implementation of a component.
>
> Yes, it is easy to design composites and write implementations for
> components with SCA editor.
>
>
>> My question is: Can I only use this implementation within a SCA
>> runtime? We have a typical application server running and don't wanna
>> provide a SCA runtime. But we'd like to use SCA for modeling the
>> architecture.
>
> I think that the implementation you wrote does not depend on SCA
> runtime, it only depends on SCA annotations (@Reference, @Property...),
> but those annotation don't change your class logic, thus you can use
> your classes out of SCA context (but you'll have to provide the jar
> containing SCA references to resolve annotations).
>
> But the question that comes to me ie "why don't you use a SCA runtime?".
> I understand that there may be conflicts because with some applications
> server, but it is worse trying...
>
>
>> Or do we have to manually adapt the implementation that it works
>> within a typical WS-compliant java application server?
>
> I can't help you on this topic.
>
>
>> Is the SCA way an alternative for the usual web service programming?
>> Is it still necessary to write the web services as we have done it
>> before? (Using JAX-WS etc.)
>
> SCA is an alternative for generic (Java-friendly) service programming. I
> often use it to expose WebServices simply by creating a java component
> that exposes its service through a binding.ws, and it works quite well
> without brainstorming:
>
> <composite ...>
> <component name="myComponent">
> <implementation.java class="package.ServiceImpl" />
> <service name="myService">
> <interface.java interface="package.IService" />
> <binding.ws uri="http://localhost:8081/endpoint" />
> </service>
> </component>
> </composite>
>
>
> Then, you have a web service published on localhost:8081/endpoint, and
> your SCA runtime made everything necessary to get it working, you simply
> wrote the composite, the interface, and the implementation (only
> business code)
>
>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Michael
>
> Regards,
> Mickael
Re: Reusing SCA Service Implementations [message #2982 is a reply to message #2947] Wed, 01 October 2008 09:35 Go to previous message
Stephane Drapeau is currently offline Stephane Drapeau
Messages: 198
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Oops! Next time, I will use the refresh button before sending my message...
I agree with you Mickael.

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

Mickael Istria a écrit :
> Oops,
>
> I clicked "Reply" without checking the forum.
> Sorry for the spam...
>
> Mickael
>
> Mickael Istria a écrit :
>> Hi Michael, all
>>
>> Michael Gebhart a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> when using the SCA editor to create my service architecture, I can
>>> easily implement services. I can write a java class and set it as the
>>> implementation of a component.
>>
>> Yes, it is easy to design composites and write implementations for
>> components with SCA editor.
>>
>>
>>> My question is: Can I only use this implementation within a SCA
>>> runtime? We have a typical application server running and don't wanna
>>> provide a SCA runtime. But we'd like to use SCA for modeling the
>>> architecture.
>>
>> I think that the implementation you wrote does not depend on SCA
>> runtime, it only depends on SCA annotations (@Reference,
>> @Property...), but those annotation don't change your class logic,
>> thus you can use your classes out of SCA context (but you'll have to
>> provide the jar containing SCA references to resolve annotations).
>>
>> But the question that comes to me ie "why don't you use a SCA
>> runtime?". I understand that there may be conflicts because with some
>> applications server, but it is worse trying...
>>
>>
>>> Or do we have to manually adapt the implementation that it works
>>> within a typical WS-compliant java application server?
>>
>> I can't help you on this topic.
>>
>>
>>> Is the SCA way an alternative for the usual web service programming?
>>> Is it still necessary to write the web services as we have done it
>>> before? (Using JAX-WS etc.)
>>
>> SCA is an alternative for generic (Java-friendly) service programming.
>> I often use it to expose WebServices simply by creating a java
>> component that exposes its service through a binding.ws, and it works
>> quite well without brainstorming:
>>
>> <composite ...>
>> <component name="myComponent">
>> <implementation.java class="package.ServiceImpl" />
>> <service name="myService">
>> <interface.java interface="package.IService" />
>> <binding.ws uri="http://localhost:8081/endpoint" />
>> </service>
>> </component>
>> </composite>
>>
>>
>> Then, you have a web service published on localhost:8081/endpoint, and
>> your SCA runtime made everything necessary to get it working, you
>> simply wrote the composite, the interface, and the implementation
>> (only business code)
>>
>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mickael
Re: Reusing SCA Service Implementations [message #573355 is a reply to message #2947] Wed, 01 October 2008 09:35 Go to previous message
Stephane Drapeau is currently offline Stephane Drapeau
Messages: 198
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Oops! Next time, I will use the refresh button before sending my message...
I agree with you Mickael.

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

Mickael Istria a écrit :
> Oops,
>
> I clicked "Reply" without checking the forum.
> Sorry for the spam...
>
> Mickael
>
> Mickael Istria a écrit :
>> Hi Michael, all
>>
>> Michael Gebhart a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> when using the SCA editor to create my service architecture, I can
>>> easily implement services. I can write a java class and set it as the
>>> implementation of a component.
>>
>> Yes, it is easy to design composites and write implementations for
>> components with SCA editor.
>>
>>
>>> My question is: Can I only use this implementation within a SCA
>>> runtime? We have a typical application server running and don't wanna
>>> provide a SCA runtime. But we'd like to use SCA for modeling the
>>> architecture.
>>
>> I think that the implementation you wrote does not depend on SCA
>> runtime, it only depends on SCA annotations (@Reference,
>> @Property...), but those annotation don't change your class logic,
>> thus you can use your classes out of SCA context (but you'll have to
>> provide the jar containing SCA references to resolve annotations).
>>
>> But the question that comes to me ie "why don't you use a SCA
>> runtime?". I understand that there may be conflicts because with some
>> applications server, but it is worse trying...
>>
>>
>>> Or do we have to manually adapt the implementation that it works
>>> within a typical WS-compliant java application server?
>>
>> I can't help you on this topic.
>>
>>
>>> Is the SCA way an alternative for the usual web service programming?
>>> Is it still necessary to write the web services as we have done it
>>> before? (Using JAX-WS etc.)
>>
>> SCA is an alternative for generic (Java-friendly) service programming.
>> I often use it to expose WebServices simply by creating a java
>> component that exposes its service through a binding.ws, and it works
>> quite well without brainstorming:
>>
>> <composite ...>
>> <component name="myComponent">
>> <implementation.java class="package.ServiceImpl" />
>> <service name="myService">
>> <interface.java interface="package.IService" />
>> <binding.ws uri="http://localhost:8081/endpoint" />
>> </service>
>> </component>
>> </composite>
>>
>>
>> Then, you have a web service published on localhost:8081/endpoint, and
>> your SCA runtime made everything necessary to get it working, you
>> simply wrote the composite, the interface, and the implementation
>> (only business code)
>>
>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mickael
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