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Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336574] Wed, 24 June 2009 10:36 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder and
they don't show up. No way no how.

Am I missing something?
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336575 is a reply to message #336574] Wed, 24 June 2009 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
Messages: 26050
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Phillipus,

I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's in
the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed messages
about why something might fail to activate, i.e., unsatisfied range
constraints on bundle dependencies...


Phillipus wrote:
> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder and
> they don't show up. No way no how.
>
> Am I missing something?
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336580 is a reply to message #336575] Wed, 24 June 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Ed Merks wrote:
> Phillipus,
>
> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's in
> the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed messages
> about why something might fail to activate, i.e., unsatisfied range
> constraints on bundle dependencies...
>
>
> Phillipus wrote:
>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder and
>> they don't show up. No way no how.
>>
>> Am I missing something?

Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta pack.

On Windows:

1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder

Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.

Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.

I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.

Phillipus
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336581 is a reply to message #336580] Wed, 24 June 2009 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Phillipus wrote:
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Phillipus,
>>
>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's in
>> the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed messages
>> about why something might fail to activate, i.e., unsatisfied range
>> constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>
>>
>> Phillipus wrote:
>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder and
>>> they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?
>
> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta pack.
>
> On Windows:
>
> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>
> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>
> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>
> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>
> Phillipus


Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336583 is a reply to message #336581] Wed, 24 June 2009 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Phillipus wrote:
> Phillipus wrote:
>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>> Phillipus,
>>>
>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's in
>>> the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed messages
>>> about why something might fail to activate, i.e., unsatisfied range
>>> constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>>
>>>
>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta pack.
>>
>> On Windows:
>>
>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>>
>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>>
>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>>
>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>>
>> Phillipus
>
>
> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353

In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
"plugins" folder!
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336584 is a reply to message #336583] Wed, 24 June 2009 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Phillipus wrote:
> Phillipus wrote:
>> Phillipus wrote:
>>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>>> Phillipus,
>>>>
>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
>>>> in the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed
>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
>>> pack.
>>>
>>> On Windows:
>>>
>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>>>
>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>>>
>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>>>
>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>>>
>>> Phillipus
>>
>>
>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
>
> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
> "plugins" folder!
>

Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336585 is a reply to message #336584] Wed, 24 June 2009 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
Messages: 5326
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.

Tom


Phillipus schrieb:
> Phillipus wrote:
>> Phillipus wrote:
>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>> Phillipus,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
>>>>> in the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed
>>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
>>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
>>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
>>>> pack.
>>>>
>>>> On Windows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
>>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
>>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>>>>
>>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> Phillipus
>>>
>>>
>>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
>>
>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
>> "plugins" folder!
>>
>
> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
>
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336586 is a reply to message #336585] Wed, 24 June 2009 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Tom Schindl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
> You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
> the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Phillipus schrieb:
>> Phillipus wrote:
>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>>> Phillipus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
>>>>>> in the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed
>>>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
>>>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
>>>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
>>>>> pack.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Windows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
>>>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
>>>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>>>>>
>>>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillipus
>>>>
>>>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
>>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
>>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
>>> "plugins" folder!
>>>
>> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
>> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
>>

Why? Because that's what I've always done. Target is the same as host.
That's what it's intended for. That's why it's a Delta pack.
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336588 is a reply to message #336585] Wed, 24 June 2009 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Tom Schindl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
> You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
> the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Phillipus schrieb:
>> Phillipus wrote:
>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>>> Phillipus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
>>>>>> in the Error log. The -debug flag will produce more detailed
>>>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
>>>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
>>>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
>>>>> pack.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Windows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
>>>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
>>>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
>>>>>
>>>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillipus
>>>>
>>>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
>>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
>>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
>>> "plugins" folder!
>>>
>> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
>> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
>>

Mind you, doing that fixes the problem. Perhaps in 3.5 the Delta pack is
not meant to be installed over the running installation.
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336593 is a reply to message #336588] Wed, 24 June 2009 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andrew Niefer is currently offline Andrew Niefer
Messages: 990
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Phillipus wrote:
>>>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
>>>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
>>>> "plugins" folder!
>>>>
>>> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
>>> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
>>>
>
> Mind you, doing that fixes the problem. Perhaps in 3.5 the Delta pack is
> not meant to be installed over the running installation.

This will likely have to do with problems generating metadata on the
org.eclipse.equinox.executable feature. See bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=248578


The best way to install the delta pack is to extract it to its own
directory and then add it to your target platform by editing the Active
Target and adding the deltapack/eclipse directory.
Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336595 is a reply to message #336593] Wed, 24 June 2009 17:27 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net

Andrew Niefer wrote:
> Phillipus wrote:
>>>>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
>>>>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
>>>>> "plugins" folder!
>>>>>
>>>> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
>>>> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5. Ho hum.
>>>>
>>
>> Mind you, doing that fixes the problem. Perhaps in 3.5 the Delta pack
>> is not meant to be installed over the running installation.
>
> This will likely have to do with problems generating metadata on the
> org.eclipse.equinox.executable feature. See bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=248578
>
>
> The best way to install the delta pack is to extract it to its own
> directory and then add it to your target platform by editing the Active
> Target and adding the deltapack/eclipse directory.

Thanks for the info!
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