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Opportunity for Early Testers [message #33008] Tue, 18 April 2006 21:37 Go to next message
David Williams is currently offline David WilliamsFriend
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Just to let readers of this newsgroup know, there is an "M6" version of the Callisto release
available via the Callisto Discovery site.

I'd recommend first reading the instructions at

http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/

And, I would recommend starting with a "fresh" version of the M6 level of platform code.

The platform code itself can not, currently, be updated from that site.

Also, there are known issues running "M6 Callisto" on "RC1 base Eclipse" ... so, don't
get ahead of us! :) If you are going to do M6 Callisto, I'd recommend everything be at the
M6 level ... after all, that's what "simultaneous release" means.

But, otherwise, if you can, and are interested ... install it all!
See how many duplicate menu items or prefernce names you can find! :)
Maybe we should see who could actually use it all in one application!? Let's see,
a JSP servlet that calls out to a cgi C++ program which
captures some performance data and produces a nice looking report?
Oh ... well, I don't know ... have fun.
Re: Opportunity for Early Testers [message #33283 is a reply to message #33008] Wed, 19 April 2006 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Blass is currently offline Steve BlassFriend
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David Williams wrote:
>
> Just to let readers of this newsgroup know, there is an "M6" version of
> the Callisto release
> available via the Callisto Discovery site.
>
> I'd recommend first reading the instructions at
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/
>
> And, I would recommend starting with a "fresh" version of the M6 level
> of platform code.
>
> The platform code itself can not, currently, be updated from that site.
>
> Also, there are known issues running "M6 Callisto" on "RC1 base Eclipse"
> ... so, don't
> get ahead of us! :) If you are going to do M6 Callisto, I'd recommend
> everything be at the
> M6 level ... after all, that's what "simultaneous release" means.
>
> But, otherwise, if you can, and are interested ... install it all!
> See how many duplicate menu items or prefernce names you can find! :)
> Maybe we should see who could actually use it all in one application!?
> Let's see,
> a JSP servlet that calls out to a cgi C++ program which
> captures some performance data and produces a nice looking report?
> Oh ... well, I don't know ... have fun.


For what its worth I spent parts of my entire afternoon not experiencing
success with the callisto update site(s). On the bright side there were
no prompts about unsigned jars but that may just be because I didn't get
that far.

Callisto M6 update site(s) adventures
-------------------------------------

Starting with fresh Eclipse 3.2.M6 SDK, added the Callisto update site,
selected everything with the Show the latest version of a
feature only box checked and the Filter features included in other
features on the list box unchecked. The dialog says I have 24 of
22 selected. Looks like the visual editor and the JST are being counted
twice since they are both in two of the collections.

Click Next

Accept License

Click Next

Click Finish

1:35pm Update Manager status message starts counting from 0%

1:40pm seems stuck at 49% - alert box hiding behind main window, dig it
up, it says Update operation has failed, click OK

NOTHING was installed.

Try again, this time with the ibiblio mirror.

Select All again

24 of 22 selected

click Next

Accept License

Click Next

Click Finish

1:44pm start counting % again in the status bar

1:46pm stuck at 8%

1:47pm 9% whoohoo!

1:57 computer dog slow, update manager at 20%, network activity at 0% on
100Mb line

2:10 stuck at 38%, no network activity

2:20 still at 38%, still no network activity abort job

Well, it is Windows so I suppose we reboot and try again.

2:50pm restart eclipse

2:52 lets try the OSU mirror this time

clicky click click click click...

3:04 Update operation failed at 79% (so close and yet so far)

3:06 so ok, we'll see if we can get VE, webtools and EMF and friends
rather than EVERYthing- choose the main site this time

3:15 dead at 7% ?

update operation failed

one more time

4:20 use the OSU mirror, check web tools, modeling,
click select required - 8 of 22 selected

4:26 operation failed at 25%

bleh
Re: Opportunity for Early Testers [message #33318 is a reply to message #33283] Thu, 20 April 2006 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Williams is currently offline David WilliamsFriend
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Thanks Steve ... I guess if you ask for early testing ... its good to get some experience reports, even
if negative.

I certainly hope we can improve upon your experience! I do know of some actions being taken ... maybe a few more are needed?

But, your post reminds me, I should have originally mentioned, its good to open bugs on any problems found.
As usual, the more it can be narrowed down, or diagnosed where the problems lies the better.
(Your's was a good report, Steve, I especially liked the timeline! It helps highlight how frustrating it must have been).

For some bug reports, it might be unclear where the problem comes from (such as this one, update manager?, or mirroring ssytem?, or both?) so you can always use the "callisto component" under
the "Eclipse Foundation" --> "Community" part of bugzilla. It will be re-routed as its investegated, when appropriate.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?classification=E clipse%20Foundation;component=Callisto

Thanks again,
Re: Opportunity for Early Testers [message #33353 is a reply to message #33318] Thu, 20 April 2006 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Blass is currently offline Steve BlassFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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David Williams wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve ... I guess if you ask for early testing ... its good to
> get some experience reports, even
> if negative.
>
> I certainly hope we can improve upon your experience! I do know of some
> actions being taken ... maybe a few more are needed?
>
> But, your post reminds me, I should have originally mentioned, its good
> to open bugs on any problems found.
> As usual, the more it can be narrowed down, or diagnosed where the
> problems lies the better.
> (Your's was a good report, Steve, I especially liked the timeline! It
> helps highlight how frustrating it must have been).
>
> For some bug reports, it might be unclear where the problem comes from
> (such as this one, update manager?, or mirroring ssytem?, or both?) so
> you can always use the "callisto component" under
> the "Eclipse Foundation" --> "Community" part of bugzilla. It will be
> re-routed as its investegated, when appropriate.
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?classification=E clipse%20Foundation;component=Callisto
>
>
> Thanks again,
>


I did finally succeed in updating webtools, emf, and ve using the
callisto update site and I entered a bug, 137670.
Re: Opportunity for Early Testers [message #33387 is a reply to message #33353] Thu, 20 April 2006 20:36 Go to previous message
Mike Milinkovich is currently offline Mike MilinkovichFriend
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
No thread on early testing would be complete without Bjorn or I reminding
everyone about the Callisto great bug contest. See
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto-files/callisto-bug- contest.php for
details.

There are prizes for both bug reporters and those committers who nominate
great bugs.


"Steve Blass" <sblass@acm.org> wrote in message
news:e27eq9$312$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> David Williams wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Steve ... I guess if you ask for early testing ... its good to get
>> some experience reports, even
>> if negative.
>>
>> I certainly hope we can improve upon your experience! I do know of some
>> actions being taken ... maybe a few more are needed?
>>
>> But, your post reminds me, I should have originally mentioned, its good
>> to open bugs on any problems found.
>> As usual, the more it can be narrowed down, or diagnosed where the
>> problems lies the better.
>> (Your's was a good report, Steve, I especially liked the timeline! It
>> helps highlight how frustrating it must have been).
>>
>> For some bug reports, it might be unclear where the problem comes from
>> (such as this one, update manager?, or mirroring ssytem?, or both?) so
>> you can always use the "callisto component" under
>> the "Eclipse Foundation" --> "Community" part of bugzilla. It will be
>> re-routed as its investegated, when appropriate.
>>
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?classification=E clipse%20Foundation;component=Callisto
>> Thanks again,
>>
>
>
> I did finally succeed in updating webtools, emf, and ve using the
> callisto update site and I entered a bug, 137670.
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