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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for January 26, 2010 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for January 26, 2010 Conference Call

Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030
Alternate: 770-615-1247
Access code: 173098#
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Call Time: 1600 UTC


PMC Members

  • David Williams: Y
  • Naci Dai: Y
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
  • Neil Hauge: Y
  • Tim deBoer: Y
  • Kaloyan Raev: Y

Announcements and General Business

  • New logo?

    1/12/2010 Naci volunteered that he'd consider, and propose a plan. For at least web page WTP logo (perhaps Java EE IDE Intro page too?).

    Naci reported he has opened bugs to discuss 2 things: 1) some rework of webpages (many no longer used); 2) potential new web logo. He'll attach a few possibilities and request review and dsicussion.

  • TODO: create "works with" CQs (all done!)

    We might have to do one for JREs or OS Platforms, but my view is we shouldn't unless explicitly requested to

    For reference, see the Board Resolution and see "3rd party" section of last year's IP Log.

  • Let's establish "mixed version project interoperability requirement"

    Is it agreed we should do this?

    Note from meeting: Is was agreed we should do this?

  • Accessibilty Requirement: Can we agree on which checklist to use? I'm assuming each project will complete one, even though we will "rollup" into one, for the Helios requirement. Better if all subprojects use the same one?

    For reference or evaluation, here is a general page from IBM on Accessibilty Guidelines for Developers. With three checklists:

  • Let's Review some WTP and Eclipse principles of open source development and governance.

    For reference, please re-read the Eclipse Standard Charter. In particular, read the section titled "The Development Process". I'd like to make sure we all have the same understanding of that section? Here's mine:

    • The status quo is the rule. Change is the exception.
    • Committers of a sub-project must all agree to change code base. (Isn't this the fundamental part of Eclispe governance?)
    • PMC defines the process. Which we haven't done!?

    Note from meeting: It was agreed to continue to discuss this to make sure at least we, the PMC agree.

  • Discuss importance of 3.1.2 "Final Build" date, on 2/12. (Raghu)

    Note from meeting: No disagreements to hold firm. PMC approval after that date would be exceptional (such as "damaging" bugs only, if any). If merely a "bad" bug found, would be better to propose to make a fix available on update site instead of new build

  • Discuss W4 incubator project. (Raghu)
  • New year resolutions?

    There is a need, and interest!, to discuss high level, big picture aspects of the WTP project. Some possible items are listed below. Remember, to actually do anything, will require someone to volunteer to do the work.

    • API, stability
    • scope? osgi spec's?
    • more "press"? as it is popular
    • e4? Can we sign up for "be compatible with e4 in 2011"
    • Continuous Improvement Notes

    We'll have next agenda too.

Handy Links from past meetings


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