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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 25, 2008 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 25, 2008 Conference Call

Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030
Alternate: 770-615-1247
Access code: 800388#
Full list of phone numbers

Call Time: 1500 UTC


PMC Members

  • David Williams: Y
  • Naci Dai: N
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
  • Neil Hauge: Y
  • Tim deBoer: Y

Reports, Actions, Issues

Planning: David Williams

  • We need a another 2.0.2 patch. (and put on update site) See bug 222531
  • We are moving to P2 based builds this week
  • In future, we (or, I) need to emphasize coordination better when asking teams to update minor version fields -- give a few days for teams to adjust.


Quality: Neil Hauge

  • Good progress ... or, flat (which is good :)


Architecture: Tim deBoer

  • Neil asked, and Tim agreed to suppliment current API Policy Doc., on non-API use within WTP. Something to the effect of:

    "Clean API use is encourage, but not critical, since no independent releases are anticipated anytime soon. Where feasible, bugs should be open with "API Requests" just as we expect from others, but there will be no focused effort to make sure that's done, since not a high priority, and since can easily see it when all source is loaded up."


Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan

We may need a mid-year release.
Strategic Advisory Council (Raghu will be going).


Education: Naci Dai

  • Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.
  • Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.
  • phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios
Orgainizing "current" now, should be ready by EclipseCon.
Will be organized better for narrowing selection and sorting.
For now, the "database" will be one XML file, with various attributes/qualities to search and sort on.


General business?

  • JSF to lead the way on Exceptions to feature freeze. Need to emphasize, repeat process in Thursday's meeting
  • Good feedback on EclipseCon
    • fee-less tutorials helped ... more attendees, still interested and engaged (not just gawkers "because it's free").
    • should have power for tutorials
    • +/- evaluation system was good
    • invited guests (as whole) were not as good as last year's (as a whole)
    • hack-a-thon -- did anyone attend?-- not well publicized
    • webtools uncovered: good attendance. no minus ones
    • webtools adopted: not heavily attended (could/should consolidate next year, have less time allotted
  • Potential resource issues?
    • Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen
    • Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).
    • Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)
    • Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps ask for community help.
    • Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.
    • No obvious resouce solutions.
    • Needs some JSF features, at least for build

Action Items

To Do

  1. David: Will call for Project Lead vote on WTP Policy on Package Visibility
  2. Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects
  3. David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements
  4. David: post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations page, especially, even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit


  1. Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership of their own pages. See bug 201331
  2. David: Reorg CVS. See CVS Restructuring Proposal
  3. David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.

PMC Calendar

  • EclipseCon

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Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.

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