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Are initial contributions (wtp and lomboz)in cvs ? [message #29289] Thu, 22 July 2004 23:23 Go to next message
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If yes, what module is for checkout ?

regards
Re: Are initial contributions (wtp and lomboz)in cvs ? [message #29327 is a reply to message #29289] Thu, 22 July 2004 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Initial contributions are not in CVS. They are released for evaluation
purposes. IBM contibution and Lomboz are products of very different
designs, teams and scale. Obviosly each have their own merits, built-in
assumptions and problems.

We would like to get the community feedback on these contributions. This
will guide us in the design and architecture of the WTP APIs and tools.
Only the new code and designs that will be used in WTP will make it into
the CVS.

These drops provide an informal baseline.


snpe wrote:

> If yes, what module is for checkout ?

> regards
Re: Are initial contributions (wtp and lomboz)in cvs ? [message #29441 is a reply to message #29327] Fri, 23 July 2004 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Naci,
> Only the new code and designs that will be used in WTP will make it into
> the CVS.
Does it mean that webtools will be complete new - don't start with wtp or
lomboz contribution ?

What does exist in lomboz and doesn't exist in wtp ?

Thanks
>
> These drops provide an informal baseline.
>
>
> snpe wrote:
>
>> If yes, what module is for checkout ?
>
>> regards
Re: Are initial contributions (wtp and lomboz)in cvs ? [message #30201 is a reply to message #29441] Fri, 23 July 2004 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"snpe" <snpe@snpe.co.yu> wrote in message news:cdqmfb$bdb$1@eclipse.org...
> Hello Naci,
> > Only the new code and designs that will be used in WTP will make it into
> > the CVS.
> Does it mean that webtools will be complete new - don't start with wtp or
> lomboz contribution ?

Yes and no. :) To get the project up to speed quickly, some of the initial
contributions will almost definitely be used as a base in CVS. However, once
this happens I expect we'll try to merge in the best features of the other
contributions, and things will get blurred as we start to define WTP and
work towards the first milestone.

> What does exist in lomboz and doesn't exist in wtp ?

I assume you mean ObjectWeb (Lomboz) and the IBM Contribution? Well, I'm a
little biased here. :)

Instead of me telling you what I think the differences are and what the
benefits of each are, I think the purpose of this initial period is for you
(the community) to provide feedback on what you like about both, what
improvements need to be made, etc. This will help to decide where we start
and what features are critical to WTP.
Re: Are initial contributions (wtp and lomboz)in cvs ? [message #30416 is a reply to message #29441] Fri, 23 July 2004 11:25 Go to previous message
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:59:47 +0000, snpe <snpe@snpe.co.yu> wrote:


> Does it mean that webtools will be complete new - don't start with wtp or
> lomboz contribution ?
>

Conceptually, we like to think of it as completely new, community based
code base. In practical code terms, to be sure to get things moving
quickly, the IBM WTP code contribution will the "starting point" for lots
of things. But, we do want to review, evaluate (and cleanup) each piece as
its put into CVS -- its not that we don't want to do that particular
"development in the open", but we think there will be so much community
based review, evaluation, cleanup, re-design, new function, and new
extensibility *after* its in CVS that it'd just be less confusing to do
one more pass first, and to put it in CVS piece by piece (milestone by
milestone) after we get it a little closer to being a starting point for
the community -- and of course, this process will depend a lot on
community feedback. We'll be developing more detailed milestone plans
soon and publishing those on eclipse webtools.

Maybe this is a good point to emphasize there's more to contribution than
just code -- designs, requirements, priorities, client insights (and bug
reports! :) are all important too -- and many have already contributed in
those areas -- so we are committed to and expect the whole process and the
end-result to be very community based, regardless of where the starting
point code comes from.

> What does exist in lomboz and doesn't exist in wtp ?
>

I'm sure lomboz users can answer this better than I, but I know one big
area -- big in that is much appreciated by Lomboz users and big in that it
would require some changes to IBM's WTP starting-point part of the code
contribution to incorporate Lomboz's provided function -- is that Lomboz
allows very flexible project layout structures, depending on needs of the
target server and depending on clients pre-existing web projects they want
to import into the tool. So, again, we'll be looking for community
feedback on desired and appreciated functions to guide our more detailed
plans. Thanks.
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