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Xp themes in Linux [message #267292] Wed, 24 December 2008 05:20 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hello,

We developed Rcp application in windows xp. While testing the same
application in Linux box (Suse/Ubuntu), the look and feel is totally
messed up. Of course Rcp is loading the theme from native OS , here our
case it is Linux hence the same look and feel is reflecting in our
application.

Question:
1) How do we get the Windows Xp look and feel in linux box. ?
2) If question #1) is not possible then what is other alternative
solutions ?

Thanks
Raj Kumar
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267300 is a reply to message #267292] Wed, 24 December 2008 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

On 12/24/2008 5:20 AM, Rajkumar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We developed Rcp application in windows xp. While testing the same
> application in Linux box (Suse/Ubuntu), the look and feel is totally
> messed up. Of course Rcp is loading the theme from native OS , here our
> case it is Linux hence the same look and feel is reflecting in our
> application.
>
> Question:
> 1) How do we get the Windows Xp look and feel in linux box. ?
> 2) If question #1) is not possible then what is other alternative
> solutions ?

Note: copying this to the SWT newsgroup.

SWT always uses the native widgets whenever possible, so there is no way
to make it look like Windows when running on Linux.
Most GUIs can be designed to look and function good on multiple
platforms, with a little effort. Maybe if you describe some of the
differences that you don't like, someone can offer suggestions on how to
correct them.

Eric
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267302 is a reply to message #267292] Wed, 24 December 2008 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Install a gnome-theme that mimics WinXP. This is why we are all using
SWT because it makes you application native just like a gnome application.

Tom

Rajkumar schrieb:
> Hello,
>
> We developed Rcp application in windows xp. While testing the same
> application in Linux box (Suse/Ubuntu), the look and feel is totally
> messed up. Of course Rcp is loading the theme from native OS , here our
> case it is Linux hence the same look and feel is reflecting in our
> application.
>
> Question:
> 1) How do we get the Windows Xp look and feel in linux box. ?
> 2) If question #1) is not possible then what is other alternative
> solutions ?
>
> Thanks
> Raj Kumar


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Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267305 is a reply to message #267300] Wed, 24 December 2008 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
What do you mean "messed up"? My SWT apps on Ubuntu look exactly like
Ubuntu (i.e. GNOME applications)...this is what it is supposed to look
like!
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267592 is a reply to message #267302] Fri, 09 January 2009 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Tom ,

Thanks for replay. The application is used in both Linux box and Windows
box. Is there is way to bundle the theme while exporting as a product
like we bundle the JVM , so the we have the same theme used both in
windows box & linux box.

Thanks,
Raj Kumar

Tom Schindl wrote:
> Install a gnome-theme that mimics WinXP. This is why we are all using
> SWT because it makes you application native just like a gnome application.
>
> Tom
>
> Rajkumar schrieb:
>> Hello,
>>
>> We developed Rcp application in windows xp. While testing the same
>> application in Linux box (Suse/Ubuntu), the look and feel is totally
>> messed up. Of course Rcp is loading the theme from native OS , here our
>> case it is Linux hence the same look and feel is reflecting in our
>> application.
>>
>> Question:
>> 1) How do we get the Windows Xp look and feel in linux box. ?
>> 2) If question #1) is not possible then what is other alternative
>> solutions ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Raj Kumar
>
>
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267594 is a reply to message #267305] Fri, 09 January 2009 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Jacek,

"Messed up" refers here
Issues in Linux Box -
1) size of fonts is larger.
2) more white spaces in end of text in Dialog box.
3) alignment of widgets is mismatched.

This above issues are perfect in windows box. The application was
developed in windows box. The requirement of application is used to both
Linux box and windows box. I think we have to start developing in Linux
box.

Thanks
-Raj


Jacek Furmankiewicz wrote:
> What do you mean "messed up"? My SWT apps on Ubuntu look exactly like
> Ubuntu (i.e. GNOME applications)...this is what it is supposed to look
> like!
>
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267596 is a reply to message #267594] Fri, 09 January 2009 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rajkumar,

SWT applications should look exactly the same on either Windows or Linux
(or MAC AFAIK). Is SWT the lib you've used in your own app?

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Rajkumar a
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267603 is a reply to message #267596] Fri, 09 January 2009 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

On 1/9/2009 9:47 AM, laurent Goubet wrote:
> Rajkumar,
>
> SWT applications should look exactly the same on either Windows or Linux
> (or MAC AFAIK). Is SWT the lib you've used in your own app?

That is NOT TRUE. SWT will use native widgets and behavior whenever
possible, so an SWT app will definitely look different on Windows than
it does on Linux; the Linux GUI itself looks different than Windows.

That being said, it is quite possible to write SWT apps that look good
and are usable on all platforms, but it takes skill and attention to
detail and proper use of Layouts and LayoutData (and of course, testing
during development, not just "hoping").

Eric



> Rajkumar a écrit :
>> Jacek,
>>
>> "Messed up" refers here
>> Issues in Linux Box -
>> 1) size of fonts is larger.
>> 2) more white spaces in end of text in Dialog box.
>> 3) alignment of widgets is mismatched.
>>
>> This above issues are perfect in windows box. The application was
>> developed in windows box. The requirement of application is used to
>> both Linux box and windows box. I think we have to start developing in
>> Linux box.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Raj
>>
>>
>> Jacek Furmankiewicz wrote:
>>> What do you mean "messed up"? My SWT apps on Ubuntu look exactly like
>>> Ubuntu (i.e. GNOME applications)...this is what it is supposed to
>>> look like!
>>>
>
Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267619 is a reply to message #267592] Fri, 09 January 2009 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

Once more this is not an SWT-Theme but an OS-Theme! Just like when you
switch the theme in WinXP your application is rendered differently. What
you are requesting here is not possible with SWT and Native-Widgets.

Tom

Rajkumar schrieb:
> Tom ,
>
> Thanks for replay. The application is used in both Linux box and Windows
> box. Is there is way to bundle the theme while exporting as a product
> like we bundle the JVM , so the we have the same theme used both in
> windows box & linux box.
>
> Thanks,
> Raj Kumar
>
> Tom Schindl wrote:
>> Install a gnome-theme that mimics WinXP. This is why we are all using
>> SWT because it makes you application native just like a gnome
>> application.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Rajkumar schrieb:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We developed Rcp application in windows xp. While testing the same
>>> application in Linux box (Suse/Ubuntu), the look and feel is totally
>>> messed up. Of course Rcp is loading the theme from native OS , here our
>>> case it is Linux hence the same look and feel is reflecting in our
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Question:
>>> 1) How do we get the Windows Xp look and feel in linux box. ?
>>> 2) If question #1) is not possible then what is other alternative
>>> solutions ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Raj Kumar
>>
>>


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Re: Xp themes in Linux [message #267642 is a reply to message #267603] Mon, 12 January 2009 02:02 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: viliam.durina.gmail.com

I think there is a major misconception of SWT, that many people dont know about: SWT is not designed to look the same on different platforms, but the opposite. Cross platform here means it can run cross-platform. I think you should put a red warning on the home page of SWT, or give a howto on writing cross-platform SWT apps... If I knew it year ago, maybe I would not choose SWT :).

Viliam
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