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Scope? [message #2185] Fri, 15 June 2007 14:25 Go to next message
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This project really caught my attention as localization of RCP
applications is of major concern for me right now. But the proposal
document specifically mentions "Eclipse projects" and "the Eclispe
Platform" when it seems that these same needs and concerns are true for
any RCP application. On one hand, anything that is developed for the
Eclipse platform should be usable by any RCP app, but I can also see how
not considering that from the beginning could result in something that
is totally unusable by the developers of RCP applications which are not
part of the platform. Why is this scoped so narrowly to just localizing
the platform itself?

- amber
Re: Scope? [message #2216 is a reply to message #2185] Mon, 18 June 2007 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Amber -

You make an excellent point. The reason that we've scoped to the Eclipse
Platform is because those of us involved with Babel so far all work on
the Eclipse platform or products based on it.

I'm not very familiar with how RCP apps differ from Eclipse plug-ins.
Would you be interested in getting involved in the Babel project so that
we can be sure that our work is useful for both RCP and the platform?

Thanks,
Jess Garms
BEA Systems

Amber wrote:
> This project really caught my attention as localization of RCP
> applications is of major concern for me right now. But the proposal
> document specifically mentions "Eclipse projects" and "the Eclispe
> Platform" when it seems that these same needs and concerns are true for
> any RCP application. On one hand, anything that is developed for the
> Eclipse platform should be usable by any RCP app, but I can also see how
> not considering that from the beginning could result in something that
> is totally unusable by the developers of RCP applications which are not
> part of the platform. Why is this scoped so narrowly to just localizing
> the platform itself?
>
> - amber
Re: Scope? [message #2245 is a reply to message #2216] Mon, 18 June 2007 15:59 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Well, the Eclipse Platform should probably be synonymous with the Rich
Client Platform and the IDE in fact, is just the most common RCP
application so it seems to me that any work done for those developing
org.eclipse.* plug-ins should be easily usable by all RCP developers.
It just scared me to see the proposal scoped so tightly to the
internationalization of the platform itself.

I'd be happy to do whatever I can to help, although I can't make any
promises on how much time my employer would allow me to devote to this.

- amber

Jess Garms wrote:
> Amber -
>
> You make an excellent point. The reason that we've scoped to the Eclipse
> Platform is because those of us involved with Babel so far all work on
> the Eclipse platform or products based on it.
>
> I'm not very familiar with how RCP apps differ from Eclipse plug-ins.
> Would you be interested in getting involved in the Babel project so that
> we can be sure that our work is useful for both RCP and the platform?
>
> Thanks,
> Jess Garms
> BEA Systems
>
> Amber wrote:
>> This project really caught my attention as localization of RCP
>> applications is of major concern for me right now. But the proposal
>> document specifically mentions "Eclipse projects" and "the Eclispe
>> Platform" when it seems that these same needs and concerns are true
>> for any RCP application. On one hand, anything that is developed for
>> the Eclipse platform should be usable by any RCP app, but I can also
>> see how not considering that from the beginning could result in
>> something that is totally unusable by the developers of RCP
>> applications which are not part of the platform. Why is this scoped
>> so narrowly to just localizing the platform itself?
>>
>> - amber
>
Re: Scope? [message #568430 is a reply to message #2185] Mon, 18 June 2007 13:49 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Amber -

You make an excellent point. The reason that we've scoped to the Eclipse
Platform is because those of us involved with Babel so far all work on
the Eclipse platform or products based on it.

I'm not very familiar with how RCP apps differ from Eclipse plug-ins.
Would you be interested in getting involved in the Babel project so that
we can be sure that our work is useful for both RCP and the platform?

Thanks,
Jess Garms
BEA Systems

Amber wrote:
> This project really caught my attention as localization of RCP
> applications is of major concern for me right now. But the proposal
> document specifically mentions "Eclipse projects" and "the Eclispe
> Platform" when it seems that these same needs and concerns are true for
> any RCP application. On one hand, anything that is developed for the
> Eclipse platform should be usable by any RCP app, but I can also see how
> not considering that from the beginning could result in something that
> is totally unusable by the developers of RCP applications which are not
> part of the platform. Why is this scoped so narrowly to just localizing
> the platform itself?
>
> - amber
Re: Scope? [message #568455 is a reply to message #2216] Mon, 18 June 2007 15:59 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Well, the Eclipse Platform should probably be synonymous with the Rich
Client Platform and the IDE in fact, is just the most common RCP
application so it seems to me that any work done for those developing
org.eclipse.* plug-ins should be easily usable by all RCP developers.
It just scared me to see the proposal scoped so tightly to the
internationalization of the platform itself.

I'd be happy to do whatever I can to help, although I can't make any
promises on how much time my employer would allow me to devote to this.

- amber

Jess Garms wrote:
> Amber -
>
> You make an excellent point. The reason that we've scoped to the Eclipse
> Platform is because those of us involved with Babel so far all work on
> the Eclipse platform or products based on it.
>
> I'm not very familiar with how RCP apps differ from Eclipse plug-ins.
> Would you be interested in getting involved in the Babel project so that
> we can be sure that our work is useful for both RCP and the platform?
>
> Thanks,
> Jess Garms
> BEA Systems
>
> Amber wrote:
>> This project really caught my attention as localization of RCP
>> applications is of major concern for me right now. But the proposal
>> document specifically mentions "Eclipse projects" and "the Eclispe
>> Platform" when it seems that these same needs and concerns are true
>> for any RCP application. On one hand, anything that is developed for
>> the Eclipse platform should be usable by any RCP app, but I can also
>> see how not considering that from the beginning could result in
>> something that is totally unusable by the developers of RCP
>> applications which are not part of the platform. Why is this scoped
>> so narrowly to just localizing the platform itself?
>>
>> - amber
>
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