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Cannot instal Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262356]

Fri, 01 August 2008 01:15

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: anthonyd.rocketmail.com

Why is it so damn difficult to get the Visual Editor (GUI builder) to
install with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede). I've read lots of postings about it,
but simply cannot get Eclipse to recognize it!

Anthony.

Re: Cannot instal Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262358 is a reply to message #262356]

Fri, 01 August 2008 01:56

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com

Did you try this?

http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing

Anthony wrote:
> Why is it so damn difficult to get the Visual Editor (GUI builder) to
> install with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede). I've read lots of postings about
> it, but simply cannot get Eclipse to recognize it!
>
> Anthony.
>

--
Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb

Re: Cannot instal Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262363 is a reply to message #262356]

Fri, 01 August 2008 02:52

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: anthonyd.rocketmail.com

I found that when I ran Eclipse 3.4 from the Windows XP (DOS) command line
using the following command, I could see there were unsatisfied
dependences when the Visual Editor files were in my "dropins" folder:

eclipse -consolelog -clean -debug -console -noexit

On re-reading the download page for the Visual Editor I came to the
realisation that VE will ONLY work with Eclipse 3.2 and not the latest
version. That's why there's a link to download Eclipse 3.2 on that page.

http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ve/downloads/drops/R-1.2.3 _jem-200701301117/index.html

Its a pity that Eclipse 3.2 is not as intuitive to use as Eclipse 3.4
is... I quite like 3.4 and to have to go back to an older version to get
the GUI designer is a drag.

Another tip: I also found that when I dropped controls on using VE nothing
appeared unless I changed the look-an-feel in the preferences when
creating, say, a JButton.

I look forward to the day when someone adds VE support for Eclipse 3.4, or
at least provides a set of packages that can be downloaded to make it
work... Wouldn't that be nice :-)

Regards,
Anthony.

Re: Cannot instal Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262365 is a reply to message #262358]

Fri, 01 August 2008 02:57

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: anthonyd.rocketmail.com

Nick Boldt wrote:

> Did you try this?

> http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing

> Anthony wrote:
>> Why is it so damn difficult to get the Visual Editor (GUI builder) to
>> install with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede). I've read lots of postings about
>> it, but simply cannot get Eclipse to recognize it!
>>
>> Anthony.
>>

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Yes, I certainly tried some of that already... there's a lot of stuff
there. Which bit in particular should I have tried. Its all a bit
overwhelming. If you could distill it into a few steps that would be
great. I have Windows XP and want to use the latest Eclipse (3.4) with
Visual Editor. Nothing I tried from that page worked for me... Bit as you
can see from my other posting, I tried Eclipse 3.2 and it worked fine.
Problem is I want to use Eclipse 3.4 because it has a better feel to it
IMHO.

Thanks,
Anthony.

Re: Cannot install Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262423 is a reply to message #262365]

Sat, 02 August 2008 02:44

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com

The simplest solution (and the one I've personally tried [0]) is the
first one [1].

a) download "Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers" [2]

b) download VE from [3] or [4] and unpack into eclipse/dropins/ve/

That's it!

[0] http://divby0.blogspot.com/2008/07/visual-editor-for-eclipse -34-ganymede.html
[1]http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing#ehecht.com
[2]http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/
[3]http://www.ehecht.com/eclipse_ve/ve.html
[4] http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing#Install_VE_From_Source Forge

Nick

Anthony wrote:
> Nick Boldt wrote:
>> Did you try this?
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing
> Which bit in particular should I have tried?

--
Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb

Re: Cannot install Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262426 is a reply to message #262423]

Sat, 02 August 2008 02:58

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com

For ease of use, I've redone the wiki page, moving all the alternate
(older, more complex) methods out into a separate page.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing

Nick

Nick Boldt wrote:
> The simplest solution (and the one I've personally tried [0]) is the
> first one [1].
>
> a) download "Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers" [2]
>
> b) download VE from [3] or [4] and unpack into eclipse/dropins/ve/
>
> That's it!
>
> [0] http://divby0.blogspot.com/2008/07/visual-editor-for-eclipse -34-ganymede.html
>
> [1]http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing#ehecht.com
> [2]http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/
> [3]http://www.ehecht.com/eclipse_ve/ve.html
> [4] http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing#Install_VE_From_Source Forge
>
> Nick
>
> Anthony wrote:
>> Nick Boldt wrote:
>>> Did you try this?
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing
>> Which bit in particular should I have tried?
>

--
Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
Eclipse Modeling :: http://www.eclipse.org/modeling
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb

Re: Cannot install Visual Editor with Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) [message #262495 is a reply to message #262426]

Mon, 04 August 2008 20:07

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: anthonyd.rocketmail.com

Nick Boldt wrote:

> For ease of use, I've redone the wiki page, moving all the alternate
> (older, more complex) methods out into a separate page.
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing
> Nick

Thanks Nick. That set of steps works for me now!

The problem I was having before is that I had downloaded the smaller
"Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (85 MB)" instead of the "Eclipse IDE for
Java EE Developers (163 MB)". And then you need to get the special version
of VE from ehecht.com instead of the normal version on the Eclipse web
site.

One final trick is that with Eclipse 3.4, the palette of Java GUI
components is not visible until you hover the mouse over the right hand
side of the GUI designer window. With Eclipse 3.2, it is clearly labelled
as "Palette". I'm not sure why this difference exists, but once you get
used to that it seems to work fine.

Thanks for all your help.

Anthony.

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