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Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #249760] Fri, 04 June 2004 16:54 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rajan11.hotmail.com

Hi All,
I am working on a project where by, I need to develope an IDE for a simple
language that I am developing. I know that I can do that in Eclipse but
what I don't know is "where to start". Here is what I want to do:

1. User should be able to create projects and add one or mode source files.
2. Source is developed using customized language, hence need a complete
editor.
3. I also need CVS support, so that the user will have versioning
capablity.
4. Customized menu/toolbar so that the user gets to see only required
actions.
5. I have a parser that generates java code from the specified source code,
hence I would also like a debugging support (but at the custom language
level (desired, but not required immediately)
6. How to package this so that I have the smalled footprint/package size.

Any help will be greatly appreciated to get me started.

BTW, Eclipse rocks.

Regards,
-RD
Re: Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #249837 is a reply to message #249760] Fri, 04 June 2004 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ed.burnette.REMOVE.THIS.sas.com

I suggest starting with the editor. The plug-in examples package available
from the download page has a simple Java editor example, and there's a
sample XML editor in the new plug-in wizard. Once you have what you want in
the full Eclipse IDE then it's mostly a matter of removing stuff you don't
need for your custom IDE.

--
Ed Burnette, co-author, Eclipse in Action
www.eclipsepowered.org

"RD" <rajan11@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c9qnic$dv2$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi All,
> I am working on a project where by, I need to develope an IDE for a simple
> language that I am developing. I know that I can do that in Eclipse but
> what I don't know is "where to start". Here is what I want to do:
Re: Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #249858 is a reply to message #249837] Sat, 05 June 2004 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rajan11.REMOVE.THIS.hotmail.com

Ed Burnette wrote:

> I suggest starting with the editor. The plug-in examples package available
> from the download page has a simple Java editor example, and there's a
> sample XML editor in the new plug-in wizard. Once you have what you want in
> the full Eclipse IDE then it's mostly a matter of removing stuff you don't
> need for your custom IDE.

Thank you Ed. Let me start taking your suggestions. Let me see how it goes.
Re: Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #249985 is a reply to message #249760] Sun, 06 June 2004 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: cburleso.us.ibm.com

I would highly recommend that you do not embark upon such a journey
without "The Java Developer's Guide to Eclipse" at your side. This is a
book by Sherry Shavor, Jim D'Anjou, Scott Fairbrother, Dan Kehn, John
Kellerman, and Pat McCarthy. Most Barnes and nobles bookstores have it in
stock.

In particular, there is a whole chapter about creating editors. In
addition, there is a tutorial on creating a custom editor usng something
like SQL as an example language.

I have been just starting with Eclipse development and I know that I saved
hours of discovery and frustration becuase of this book. It's over 800
pages and covers some hidden tips on the use of eclipse as well as a
wealth of info (probably the most comprehensive available) on how to
program for it.

Cheers,

- Cody
Re: Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #250149 is a reply to message #249985] Mon, 07 June 2004 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rajan11.hotmail.com

cburleso@us.ibm.com wrote:

> I would highly recommend that you do not embark upon such a journey
> without "The Java Developer's Guide to Eclipse" at your side. This is a
> book by Sherry Shavor, Jim D'Anjou, Scott Fairbrother, Dan Kehn, John
> Kellerman, and Pat McCarthy. Most Barnes and nobles bookstores have it in
> stock.

> In particular, there is a whole chapter about creating editors. In
> addition, there is a tutorial on creating a custom editor usng something
> like SQL as an example language.

I have this book and find it interesting. As far as editor is concerned,
yes it has a very detailed example. But this book talks about Eclipse 2.1
(not a big problem though...). My main worry is not about writing an
editor, but is about packaging it.

When I package it finally for my end users, I don't want all the default
menu and toolbar actions. I want to define my own menu and tool bar as
well as perspectives. But at the same time I still need the functionality
of workbench and JDT. At this point I don't know how to do that.

> I have been just starting with Eclipse development and I know that I saved
> hours of discovery and frustration becuase of this book. It's over 800
> pages and covers some hidden tips on the use of eclipse as well as a
> wealth of info (probably the most comprehensive available) on how to
> program for it.

Thanks for your response.

> Cheers,

> - Cody
Re: Customized, Eclipse based IDE - How to start? [message #250153 is a reply to message #249985] Mon, 07 June 2004 11:30 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rajan11.hotmail.com

cburleso@us.ibm.com wrote:

> I would highly recommend that you do not embark upon such a journey
> without "The Java Developer's Guide to Eclipse" at your side. This is a
> book by Sherry Shavor, Jim D'Anjou, Scott Fairbrother, Dan Kehn, John
> Kellerman, and Pat McCarthy. Most Barnes and nobles bookstores have it in
> stock.

> In particular, there is a whole chapter about creating editors. In
> addition, there is a tutorial on creating a custom editor usng something
> like SQL as an example language.

I have this book and find it interesting. As far as editor is concerned,
yes it has a very detailed example. But this book talks about Eclipse 2.1
(not a big problem though...). My main worry is not about writing an
editor, but is about packaging it.

When I package it finally for my end users, I don't want all the default
menu and toolbar actions. I want to define my own menu and tool bar as
well as perspectives. But at the same time I still need the functionality
of workbench and JDT. At this point I don't know how to do that.

> I have been just starting with Eclipse development and I know that I saved
> hours of discovery and frustration becuase of this book. It's over 800
> pages and covers some hidden tips on the use of eclipse as well as a
> wealth of info (probably the most comprehensive available) on how to
> program for it.

Thanks for your response.

> Cheers,

> - Cody
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