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Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214405] Mon, 22 March 2004 11:48 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: schausson.genigraph.fr

Hi,

I'm looking for informations about the difference between
an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
plugin... )

TIA,

Sébastien
Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214699 is a reply to message #214405] Tue, 23 March 2004 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the
eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
that could be called an eclipse application, too.

Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
easier than the other ways.

good luck!
Paul

Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for informations about the difference between
> an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
> differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
> something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
> eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
> plugin... )
>
> TIA,
>
> Sébastien
Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #214756 is a reply to message #214699] Tue, 23 March 2004 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: schausson.genigraph.fr

Thank you for your help !
In fact, I wrote a standalone application, and I'd like to
make workbench resources available to this application. If I
understood what I read in this news, I have to convert my
'standalone' application (no SWT in it) to a 'Eclipse application'.
It seems that I have to implement IPlatformRunnable, and define
such an extension to Eclipse platform :
<extension id="coolApplication"
point="org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications">
<application>
<run class="com.xyz.applications.Cool">
<parameter name="optimize" value="true"/>
</run>
</application>
</extension>

Where do I define this ? In a "plugin.xml" file ? Will it allow me
to call Eclipse in 'headless' mode to run my application ?

TIA,

Sebastien


Paul T. Keyser a écrit :

> Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the
> eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
> plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
> nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
> their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
> result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
> possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
> using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
> then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
> that could be called an eclipse application, too.
>
> Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
> web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
> if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
> easier than the other ways.
>
> good luck!
> Paul
>
> Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm looking for informations about the difference between
>>an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
>>differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
>>something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
>>eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
>>plugin... )
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Sébastien
>
>
Re: Newbie with Eclipse platform... [message #215019 is a reply to message #214756] Tue, 23 March 2004 14:20 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Yes, that must be in the plugin.xml, though I cannot vouch for the
correctness of the XML, as I nearly always use the plugin.xml's GUI-centric
editor. And I dunno about "headless", sorry.

Paul

Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:

> Thank you for your help !
> In fact, I wrote a standalone application, and I'd like to
> make workbench resources available to this application. If I
> understood what I read in this news, I have to convert my
> 'standalone' application (no SWT in it) to a 'Eclipse application'.
> It seems that I have to implement IPlatformRunnable, and define
> such an extension to Eclipse platform :
> <extension id="coolApplication"
> point="org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications">
> <application>
> <run class="com.xyz.applications.Cool">
> <parameter name="optimize" value="true"/>
> </run>
> </application>
> </extension>
>
> Where do I define this ? In a "plugin.xml" file ? Will it allow me
> to call Eclipse in 'headless' mode to run my application ?
>
> TIA,
>
> Sebastien
>
> Paul T. Keyser a écrit :
>
> > Yeah, that is less than obvious at first -- in effect, within the
> > eclipse world, there is only *one* application, eclipse, and one writes
> > plugins to customize its behavior. Sometimes people want to remove
> > nearly all of the supplied behavior (i.e., supplied plugins), supply
> > their own set of plugins, add their own splash-screen, and ship the
> > result, and that can be called an eclipse application. It is also
> > possible to write what is called a "standalone SWT application", by
> > using a certain dll, writing code that uses only the SWT widgets, and
> > then packaging that dll and the rsulting class-files somehow: I suppose
> > that could be called an eclipse application, too.
> >
> > Probably a better way of starting is to do what the main eclipse.org
> > web-page suggests, which is to play around with plug-ins first, and see
> > if what you want to do can be done that way, since eclipse makes that
> > easier than the other ways.
> >
> > good luck!
> > Paul
> >
> > Sébastien CHAUSSON wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I'm looking for informations about the difference between
> >>an "eclipse plugin" and an "eclipse application" ? Is there
> >>differences between these 2 concepts or do I misunderstand
> >>something ? Where could I find articles on how to create an
> >>eclipse application ? (if it's not the same thing than
> >>plugin... )
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Sébastien
> >
> >
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