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change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #211937] Wed, 10 August 2005 03:16 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: aks.terma.com

Hi

I cannot be the only one with both new (java 1.5) and old (pre 1.5) projects
who changes the eclipse jre all the time to avoid
- very slow eclipse (when using old projects with java 5)
- reserved keyword errors when using i.e. 'enum' in my package/class names
etc.
- etc.

I doesn't help to change the project vm, only to change the eclipse vm (in
preferences, java, installed jres, checkbox)
I use 1.4.2_03 or 1.5.0_02

So I change the VM all the time

Does anyone have the same problem?

/aksel
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #211945 is a reply to message #211937] Wed, 10 August 2005 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: hcs33.egon.gyaloglo.hu

Hi,

I think you have to set a couple of things to get the expected behaviour. I
assume for the next example that you set the default java to 1.5. If you
want to develop against an 1.4 java you have to do the following:

1. Change the project jvm to an 1.4 java (Project properties / Java Build
Path / Libraries)
2. Change the source compliance level to 1.4 (Project properties / Java
compiler / set Enable project specific settings / Compiler compliance level:
1.4)
3. If you have run configurations you created before you maybe have to set
the the jvm in the run configuration / JRE tab.

Also - if your pre-1.5 and 1.5 projects are not dependent on each other -
you can create two workspaces: one for 1.5 projects and one for 1.4 ones.

HTH,
Regards,
Csaba

Aksel Schmidt wrote:
> Hi
>
> I cannot be the only one with both new (java 1.5) and old (pre 1.5)
> projects who changes the eclipse jre all the time to avoid
> - very slow eclipse (when using old projects with java 5)
> - reserved keyword errors when using i.e. 'enum' in my package/class names
> etc.
> - etc.
>
> I doesn't help to change the project vm, only to change the eclipse vm (in
> preferences, java, installed jres, checkbox)
> I use 1.4.2_03 or 1.5.0_02
>
> So I change the VM all the time
>
> Does anyone have the same problem?
>
> /aksel
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #211951 is a reply to message #211945] Wed, 10 August 2005 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: aks.terma.com

Hi Csaba and thanks for the effort

> 1. Change the project jvm to an 1.4 java (Project properties / Java Build
> Path / Libraries)
> 2. Change the source compliance level to 1.4 (Project properties / Java
> compiler / set Enable project specific settings / Compiler compliance
level:
> 1.4)
> 3. If you have run configurations you created before you maybe have to set
> the the jvm in the run configuration / JRE tab.

Thanks, I still have problems with my Enum-class (eclipse compiler finds the
1.5 'java.lang.Enum' and gets confused)
(It is a small thing, but our enum is used *everywhere*)
How can the compiler suggest a 1.5 class with all the above settings?

> Also - if your pre-1.5 and 1.5 projects are not dependent on each other -
> you can create two workspaces: one for 1.5 projects and one for 1.4 ones.

I believe more in this one - I just felt that with all these parameters and
compliance levels, it should haven been working with a recipe like yours

your second solution will work, or a simple plugin that will bring the
eclipse vm selection to some buttons on the toolbar ('Use 1.4'/'Use
1.5'-like)

Thanks!
/aksel
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #212016 is a reply to message #211951] Wed, 10 August 2005 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse3.rizzoweb.com

Aksel Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Csaba and thanks for the effort
>
>
>>1. Change the project jvm to an 1.4 java (Project properties / Java Build
>>Path / Libraries)
>>2. Change the source compliance level to 1.4 (Project properties / Java
>>compiler / set Enable project specific settings / Compiler compliance
>
> level:
>
>>1.4)
>>3. If you have run configurations you created before you maybe have to set
>>the the jvm in the run configuration / JRE tab.
>
>
> Thanks, I still have problems with my Enum-class (eclipse compiler finds the
> 1.5 'java.lang.Enum' and gets confused)
> (It is a small thing, but our enum is used *everywhere*)
> How can the compiler suggest a 1.5 class with all the above settings?

Check the Libraries tab of the Project's build path settings. Chances
are it is referring to the JRE 1.5 library (if that was the workspace
default JRE when you created the project). Just select that entry and
then click Edit to change it to the proper JDK.


>>Also - if your pre-1.5 and 1.5 projects are not dependent on each other -
>>you can create two workspaces: one for 1.5 projects and one for 1.4 ones.
>
>
> I believe more in this one - I just felt that with all these parameters and
> compliance levels, it should haven been working with a recipe like yours
>
> your second solution will work, or a simple plugin that will bring the
> eclipse vm selection to some buttons on the toolbar ('Use 1.4'/'Use
> 1.5'-like)

There is no need to "change the current VM" - in fact, that doesn't make
sense because each project and launch configuration can be associated
with its own JRE settings. Once you get your projects and launch configs
set up properly, it just works. Trust me: I currently have Eclipse
itself running under JDK 1.5, have some 1.4 and some 1.3 projects in my
workspace, and occasionally create a 1.5-based project for testing stuff.

HTH,
Eric
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #212077 is a reply to message #212016] Wed, 10 August 2005 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: aks.terma.com

> Check the Libraries tab of the Project's build path settings. Chances
> are it is referring to the JRE 1.5 library (if that was the workspace
> default JRE when you created the project). Just select that entry and
> then click Edit to change it to the proper JDK.

No, its 1.4.2 alright (and always has been)

> There is no need to "change the current VM" - in fact, that doesn't make
> sense because each project and launch configuration can be associated
> with its own JRE settings. Once you get your projects and launch configs
> set up properly, it just works. Trust me: I currently have Eclipse
> itself running under JDK 1.5, have some 1.4 and some 1.3 projects in my
> workspace, and occasionally create a 1.5-based project for testing stuff.


I dont want to make a big thing out of it - there is a workaround (change
the vm), but fact is that my bla.bla.Enum class is considered ambiguous as
the java.lang.Enum (of java 1.5) clashes with the (*) import of the Enum
type.
In smaller 1.4 projects, I just use explicit imports, but in projects using
Enums 1000+ places, it makes me use the easy solution which is 'change the
eclipse vm'

it sounds stupid alright, cant explain it, why I asked here...

/aksel
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #212084 is a reply to message #212077] Wed, 10 August 2005 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: wegener.cboenospam.com

Aksel Schmidt wrote:

>> Check the Libraries tab of the Project's build path settings. Chances
>> are it is referring to the JRE 1.5 library (if that was the workspace
>> default JRE when you created the project). Just select that entry and
>> then click Edit to change it to the proper JDK.

> No, its 1.4.2 alright (and always has been)

>> There is no need to "change the current VM" - in fact, that doesn't make
>> sense because each project and launch configuration can be associated
>> with its own JRE settings. Once you get your projects and launch configs
>> set up properly, it just works. Trust me: I currently have Eclipse
>> itself running under JDK 1.5, have some 1.4 and some 1.3 projects in my
>> workspace, and occasionally create a 1.5-based project for testing stuff.


> I dont want to make a big thing out of it - there is a workaround (change
> the vm), but fact is that my bla.bla.Enum class is considered ambiguous as
> the java.lang.Enum (of java 1.5) clashes with the (*) import of the Enum
> type.
> In smaller 1.4 projects, I just use explicit imports, but in projects using
> Enums 1000+ places, it makes me use the easy solution which is 'change the
> eclipse vm'

The only way for the bla.bla.Enum class to be ambiguous with the
java.lang.Enum class in 1.5 is for the 1.5 jre jars to be on the build
path. How are you specifying the jre jars on your projects build path?
If you are using the JRE_LIB variable, then changing the default jre in
the preferences is changing it for your project.

If you want to make sure that a given project always uses the 1.4 JRE
classes on the build path, you need to remove the JRE_LIB variable and
replace it with an explicit reference to a 1.4 JRE.

Project->Properties->Java Build Path->Libraries.
Select JRE_LIB and click the Remove button.
Click the Add Library button.
Select JRE System Library and click Next.
Select Alternate JRE and select the appropriate 1.4 entry from the drop
down box.

Your project will now compile against 1.4 classes no matter what you pick
for the default JRE.

> it sounds stupid alright, cant explain it, why I asked here...

> /aksel
Re: change eclipse vm frequently: easy solution? [message #212111 is a reply to message #212084] Thu, 11 August 2005 06:03 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: aks.terma.com

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> The only way for the bla.bla.Enum class to be ambiguous with the=20
> java.lang.Enum class in 1.5 is for the 1.5 jre jars to be on the build =

> path. How are you specifying the jre jars on your projects build =
path? =20
> If you are using the JRE_LIB variable, then changing the default jre =
in=20
> the preferences is changing it for your project.

The jre classpath looked like this (and followed the eclipse jre to =
1.5.0 when this was selected):
=20

> If you want to make sure that a given project always uses the 1.4 JRE=20
> classes on the build path, you need to remove the JRE_LIB variable and =

> replace it with an explicit reference to a 1.4 JRE.
>=20
> Project->Properties->Java Build Path->Libraries.
> Select JRE_LIB and click the Remove button.
> Click the Add Library button.
> Select JRE System Library and click Next.
> Select Alternate JRE and select the appropriate 1.4 entry from the =
drop=20
> down box.
>=20
> Your project will now compile against 1.4 classes no matter what you =
pick=20
> for the default JRE.
>=20


yes - after this event, the jre version will stick to 1.4.2, otherwise =
it will follo the eclipse jre..
you can't tell the difference on the build path view though...

Thanks! :)
/aksel
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; The only way for the bla.bla.Enum =
class to be=20
ambiguous with the <BR>&gt; java.lang.Enum class in 1.5 is for the 1.5 =
jre jars=20
to be on the build <BR>&gt; path.&nbsp; How are you specifying the jre =
jars on=20
your projects build path?&nbsp; <BR>&gt; If you are using the JRE_LIB =
variable,=20
then changing the default jre in <BR>&gt; the preferences is changing it =
for=20
your project.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The jre classpath looked like this (and =
followed=20
the eclipse jre to 1.5.0 when this was selected):</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; If you want to make sure that =
a given=20
project always uses the 1.4 JRE <BR>&gt; classes on the build path, you =
need to=20
remove the JRE_LIB variable and <BR>&gt; replace it with an explicit =
reference=20
to a 1.4 JRE.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Project-&gt;Properties-&gt;Java Build=20
Path-&gt;Libraries.<BR>&gt; Select JRE_LIB and click the Remove =
button.<BR>&gt;=20
Click the Add Library button.<BR>&gt; Select JRE System Library and =
click=20
Next.<BR>&gt; Select Alternate JRE and select the appropriate 1.4 entry =
from the=20
drop <BR>&gt; down box.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Your project will now compile =
against=20
1.4 classes no matter what you pick <BR>&gt; for the default =
JRE.<BR>&gt;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yes - after this event, the jre version =
will stick=20
to 1.4.2, otherwise it will follo the eclipse jre..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you can't tell the difference on the =
build path=20
view though...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks! :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/aksel</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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