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Yet another incremental problem [message #186641] Thu, 29 January 2004 11:19 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: robert.haycock.compelsolve.com

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Did a search on why Eclipse does a full build everytime and found 2 answers.

1. It doesn't
2. By default it does an incremental build, ra ra ra

Thankfully I've turned 'automatic build' on which saves me the hassle of
having my ouput folder cleared down EVERY time. But why can't I have manual
build on????

Why when I choose 'project -> Build project' it has to do a full build???
WHY??????

After reading this, that, the other and his mates, I still can't turn the
stupid thing off. Is this a sick joke from the dev team or just some secret
shared between the lucky few?

I would use a nice IDE if I could but don't have a choice :o(

Regards,
Mr. Has-no-hair-left
Re: Yet another incremental problem [message #186681 is a reply to message #186641] Thu, 29 January 2004 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-user.jibeinc.com

anti_fan wrote:

> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
> Did a search on why Eclipse does a full build everytime and found 2 answers.
>
> 1. It doesn't
> 2. By default it does an incremental build, ra ra ra
>
> Thankfully I've turned 'automatic build' on which saves me the hassle of
> having my ouput folder cleared down EVERY time. But why can't I have manual
> build on????
>
> Why when I choose 'project -> Build project' it has to do a full build???
> WHY??????
>
> After reading this, that, the other and his mates, I still can't turn the
> stupid thing off. Is this a sick joke from the dev team or just some secret
> shared between the lucky few?
>
> I would use a nice IDE if I could but don't have a choice :o(

Your attitude is not conducive to getting others to help you. Nor are
your specifics. But I'm going to try anyway...

You don't mention which version of Eclipse you're using, which could
potentially change the answer(s). But either way, it would help if you
describe in simple, unemotional terms:
1) the exact behavior you desire from the tool
2) the exact behavior you are observing instead

Incremental compiling is desirable in most cases; it seems, although I'm
not positive, that you have agreed to use that feature.
Project > Build is intended to be a complete, clean build of an entire
project. With incremental compiling enabled, it is the only other option
that makes any sense, since everything will normally be up-to-date as
soon as you save code files. If everything is always incrementally
compiled, the only other thing I think of I'd want to do is a complete,
clean, re-build of everything (including any Project Builders). Perhaps
Project Builders is the part you are missing - search the Eclipse Help
for that term and read up on them to see if they would meet your needs.

HTH,
Eric
--
Eric Rizzo
Software Architect
Jibe, Inc.
http://www.jibeinc.com
Re: Yet another incremental problem [message #186760 is a reply to message #186681] Thu, 29 January 2004 13:40 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: Lamont_Gilbert.rigidsoftware.com

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Eric Rizzo wrote:
| anti_fan wrote:
|
|> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
|>
|> Did a search on why Eclipse does a full build everytime and found 2
|> answers.
|>
|> 1. It doesn't
|> 2. By default it does an incremental build, ra ra ra
|>
|> Thankfully I've turned 'automatic build' on which saves me the hassle of
|> having my ouput folder cleared down EVERY time. But why can't I have
|> manual
|> build on????
|>
|> Why when I choose 'project -> Build project' it has to do a full build???
|> WHY??????
|>
|> After reading this, that, the other and his mates, I still can't turn the
|> stupid thing off. Is this a sick joke from the dev team or just some
|> secret
|> shared between the lucky few?
|>
|> I would use a nice IDE if I could but don't have a choice :o(
|

A faster processor would likely be cheaper than a "nice" IDE ;) Or
faster HD, whichever is bogging you down.

|
| Your attitude is not conducive to getting others to help you. Nor are
| your specifics. But I'm going to try anyway...
|

Yes, but this is natural. He is probably new, and can see the
potential, but frustrated that it does not seem to behave itself. I use
Netbeans, then tried eclipse for a week and deleted Eclipse. Came back
a year later and was wondering why I quit so fast...

| You don't mention which version of Eclipse you're using, which could
| potentially change the answer(s). But either way, it would help if you
| describe in simple, unemotional terms:
| 1) the exact behavior you desire from the tool
| 2) the exact behavior you are observing instead
|
| Incremental compiling is desirable in most cases; it seems, although I'm
| not positive, that you have agreed to use that feature.
| Project > Build is intended to be a complete, clean build of an entire
| project. With incremental compiling enabled, it is the only other option
| that makes any sense, since everything will normally be up-to-date as
| soon as you save code files. If everything is always incrementally
| compiled, the only other thing I think of I'd want to do is a complete,
| clean, re-build of everything (including any Project Builders). Perhaps
| Project Builders is the part you are missing - search the Eclipse Help
| for that term and read up on them to see if they would meet your needs.
|

Of course, incremental builds being perfect why does one need a
"Project" build :) Couldn't resist that. I do get out of sync every so
often.

| HTH,
| Eric


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