| Eclipse and Websphere Application Server Community Edition [message #185679] |
Tue, 26 December 2006 11:42  |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: user.domain.invalid
Hi,
being new, I have some boring questions :
1)
I guess I'm right so far in having downloaded the Eclipse in stead of
the 3 months free trial Wepsphere Application Development Studio
environment.
However, I would need the non-free "Websphere Application Server"? Or
does the free "Websphere Application Server Community Edition" fullfill
the needs of a newbie?
Or concreet, does a combination of
JRE + Java 2 SDK + Eclipse (+plugins (Which ones?)) + "Websphere
Application Server Community Edition" meet ones needs?
2)
I have 2 machines : a 2.8 GHz Linux with 1 GB ram and a 2.0 GHz Windows
2000 Pro with also 1 GB ram.
So, where do I put the server and where the develoment tools or
whichever other combination?
And do both machines need Java 2 SDK or just the development machine?
I guess each machine needs JRE?
that's it for now.
Regards,
Serge.
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| Re: Eclipse and Websphere Application Server Community Edition [message #185740 is a reply to message #185679] |
Wed, 27 December 2006 03:09  |
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Originally posted by: wayne.beaton._NOSPAM_eclipse.org
user@domain.invalid wrote:
> Hi,
>
> being new, I have some boring questions :
Oh contraire, these are exciting and thought-provoking questions :-)
> 1)
> I guess I'm right so far in having downloaded the Eclipse in stead of
> the 3 months free trial Wepsphere Application Development Studio
> environment.
> However, I would need the non-free "Websphere Application Server"? Or
> does the free "Websphere Application Server Community Edition" fullfill
> the needs of a newbie?
> Or concreet, does a combination of
> JRE + Java 2 SDK + Eclipse (+plugins (Which ones?)) + "Websphere
> Application Server Community Edition" meet ones needs?
I'm pretty sure that the Community Edition is different from the
WebSphere Application Server. I've been away from the technology, so I'm
not 100% certain. If you use the community edition for unit testing, you
may find inconsistencies when you try to deploy to your production
environment.
I recall that there used to be a developer's edition of WebSphere
Application Server that was the exact same code base, but with a license
that permits development only; I recall that there was a nominal charge
for it.
It's probably best that you take this question to IBM. Perhaps your
local sales guy (check with the tech sales guy) should be able to set
you straight.
Eclipse Web Tools provides everything you need to work with WebSphere
Application Server (and others). It lets you build Web projects and
deploy/debug them against your app server.
Here's a screen cam that shows installing/using Web Tools with Tomcat.
The steps are basically the same for WebSphere Application Server.
http://www.eclipse.org/resources/resource.php?id=126
The IBM developerWorks site has a bunch of articles, there's probably
some good stuff in there as well:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks
BTW: WebSphere Studio Application Developer has been replaced with
Rational Application Developer. Rational Application Developer starts
from an Eclipse base and adds a tonne of stuff that's all pretty useful.
However, there is a cost that you'll eventually have to pay...
> 2)
> I have 2 machines : a 2.8 GHz Linux with 1 GB ram and a 2.0 GHz Windows
> 2000 Pro with also 1 GB ram.
> So, where do I put the server and where the develoment tools or
> whichever other combination?
You can put the unit test server and development tools on the same box.
I run this configuration all on my laptop and it works very well. You
might want to try and get more RAM, but it should work okay in 1GB.
If you're talking about a production server, then you really need to
think about this more....
> And do both machines need Java 2 SDK or just the development machine?
> I guess each machine needs JRE?
Actually, the only reason that you'll need an SDK is to get the Java
source code that comes with it. Eclipse has everything you need to build
Java code, including its own compiler. All you need for Eclipse is a
Java 1.4 or better JRE. WebSphere Application Server comes with its own
JRE which you shouldn't bother trying to change (it's messy and screws
up support).
> that's it for now.
>
> Regards,
> Serge.
HTH,
Wayne
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