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| [TCS] Install TCS... [message #14881] |
Fri, 20 June 2008 14:45  |
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Originally posted by: no.email.com
Hi,
I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because there
is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page on the
wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not enough.
What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have to get
the old one?
That will be really nice to be able to download a working installation
with all the plugins needed. I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial context.
I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
As I liked ATL and found the concept of creating an injector and an
extractor at the same really great I was looking forward to using TCS
but since it seems such a choar to make it work I think I will focus on
Xtext instead.
Joe Macintosh
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #16613 is a reply to message #16597] |
Wed, 16 July 2008 03:20  |
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Originally posted by: no.email.com
By the way, for those interested, I had also to check out
org.antlr.runtime from the v3.0.0 branch of the org.eclipse.orbit
project (on the /cvsroot/technology repository).
Joe Macintosh wrote :
> Hi Frederic,
>
> Thanks for your help and sorry for having been a bit harsh in the
> previous message. So I managed to install TCS and it works fine! (I had
> to checkout some plugins for AM3 though for having syntax highlighting).
>
> Now I will begin to play with TCS :)
>
> Keep up the good work,
> Joe
>
> PS: Do you a date in mind for the TMF release of TCS ?
>
> Frédéric Jouault wrote :
>> Hi,
>>
>> > I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because there
>> > is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page on the
>> > wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not
>> enough.
>> > What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
>> > compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have to
>> get
>> > the old one?
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>> I have updated the installation guide on the wiki:
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project#Installing_the_ Required_Features
>>
>>
>>
>> > That will be really nice to be able to download a working installation
>> > with all the plugins needed.
>>
>> I completely agree with you.
>>
>> As you have noticed TMF does not have a download page yet.
>> This is of course going to change once the migration from GMT to TMF
>> is finished.
>>
>>
>> > I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
>> > provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial
>> context.
>> > I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
>>
>> Older versions were actually easier to install, and several companies
>> have been using TCS successfully.
>>
>> We have also recently been using Project Set Files to ease the CVS
>> check-out procedure. Please let us know if you are interested.
>>
>> Of course, binary builds should solve this installation problem.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Frédéric Jouault
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #16630 is a reply to message #16613] |
Wed, 16 July 2008 03:22 |
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Originally posted by: no.email.com
Joe Macintosh wrote :
Sorry that was the /cvsroot/tools repository
> By the way, for those interested, I had also to check out
> org.antlr.runtime from the v3.0.0 branch of the org.eclipse.orbit
> project (on the /cvsroot/technology repository).
>
> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>> Hi Frederic,
>>
>> Thanks for your help and sorry for having been a bit harsh in the
>> previous message. So I managed to install TCS and it works fine! (I
>> had to checkout some plugins for AM3 though for having syntax
>> highlighting).
>>
>> Now I will begin to play with TCS :)
>>
>> Keep up the good work,
>> Joe
>>
>> PS: Do you a date in mind for the TMF release of TCS ?
>>
>> Frédéric Jouault wrote :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because
>>> there
>>> > is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page on the
>>> > wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not
>>> enough.
>>> > What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
>>> > compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have
>>> to get
>>> > the old one?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>> I have updated the installation guide on the wiki:
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project#Installing_the_ Required_Features
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > That will be really nice to be able to download a working
>>> installation
>>> > with all the plugins needed.
>>>
>>> I completely agree with you.
>>>
>>> As you have noticed TMF does not have a download page yet.
>>> This is of course going to change once the migration from GMT to TMF
>>> is finished.
>>>
>>>
>>> > I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
>>> > provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial
>>> context.
>>> > I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
>>>
>>> Older versions were actually easier to install, and several companies
>>> have been using TCS successfully.
>>>
>>> We have also recently been using Project Set Files to ease the CVS
>>> check-out procedure. Please let us know if you are interested.
>>>
>>> Of course, binary builds should solve this installation problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Frédéric Jouault
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #16644 is a reply to message #16630] |
Wed, 16 July 2008 08:21 |
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Originally posted by: no.email.com
Joe Macintosh wrote :
In fact I still can't make TCS work.
I've created a TCS project. But when I try to run the injector ant task
in this default project (whithout having changed anything), it fails
with the following error :
Buildfile: D:\eclipseTCS\workspaceTCS\Test\injector.xml
injection:
BUILD FAILED
D:\eclipseTCS\workspaceTCS\Test\injector.xml:21: Problem: failed to
create task or type am3.loadModel
Cause: The name is undefined.
Action: Check the spelling.
Action: Check that any custom tasks/types have been declared.
Action: Check that any <presetdef>/<macrodef> declarations have taken place.
I've installed AM3. And am3.loadModel is registered in my ant tasks.
> Joe Macintosh wrote :
> Sorry that was the /cvsroot/tools repository
>
>> By the way, for those interested, I had also to check out
>> org.antlr.runtime from the v3.0.0 branch of the org.eclipse.orbit
>> project (on the /cvsroot/technology repository).
>>
>> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help and sorry for having been a bit harsh in the
>>> previous message. So I managed to install TCS and it works fine! (I
>>> had to checkout some plugins for AM3 though for having syntax
>>> highlighting).
>>>
>>> Now I will begin to play with TCS :)
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> PS: Do you a date in mind for the TMF release of TCS ?
>>>
>>> Frédéric Jouault wrote :
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> > I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because
>>>> there
>>>> > is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page on
>>>> the
>>>> > wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not
>>>> enough.
>>>> > What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
>>>> > compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have
>>>> to get
>>>> > the old one?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>> I have updated the installation guide on the wiki:
>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project#Installing_the_ Required_Features
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > That will be really nice to be able to download a working
>>>> installation
>>>> > with all the plugins needed.
>>>>
>>>> I completely agree with you.
>>>>
>>>> As you have noticed TMF does not have a download page yet.
>>>> This is of course going to change once the migration from GMT to TMF
>>>> is finished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
>>>> > provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial
>>>> context.
>>>> > I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
>>>>
>>>> Older versions were actually easier to install, and several
>>>> companies have been using TCS successfully.
>>>>
>>>> We have also recently been using Project Set Files to ease the CVS
>>>> check-out procedure. Please let us know if you are interested.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, binary builds should solve this installation problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Frédéric Jouault
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #16679 is a reply to message #16644] |
Fri, 18 July 2008 08:00 |
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Joe Macintosh wrote:
> Joe Macintosh wrote :
> In fact I still can't make TCS work.
> I've created a TCS project. But when I try to run the injector ant task
> in this default project (whithout having changed anything), it fails
> with the following error :
> Buildfile: D:eclipseTCSworkspaceTCSTestinjector.xml
> injection:
> BUILD FAILED
> D:eclipseTCSworkspaceTCSTestinjector.xml:21: Problem: failed to
> create task or type am3.loadModel
> Cause: The name is undefined.
Hi,
I am new to TCS myself, so no warranty.
I usually have the AMMACore and AMMAScripts project checked out in my
workspace, and I believe that's how they were referenced. I am not sure
whther that ever got changed.
As it says on the TCS language project site:
Checking out the Required Projects
The first step is to check out the AMMAScripts, and AMMACore projects in
your workspace, if you do not have them already.
To do this, you can connect anonymously by CVS to repository
/cvsroot/technology on server dev.eclipse.org using the pserver protocol.
Then, you can checkout the two projects available in
org.eclipse.gmt/org.eclipse.gmt.tcs/scripts/.
NB: Some external libraries are required, please refer to the README.txt
file in the AMMAScripts project for more details.
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #18160 is a reply to message #16679] |
Wed, 23 July 2008 10:55 |
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Thibault,
Thank you for your answer.
Please note that using AMMACore + AMMAScripts is now obsolete (see
http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project).
Because Joe is apparently using the plugin builder, this does not seem
to be the problem that he reported.
Regards,
Frédéric Jouault
Thibault a écrit :
> Joe Macintosh wrote:
>
>> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>
>> In fact I still can't make TCS work.
>> I've created a TCS project. But when I try to run the injector ant
>> task in this default project (whithout having changed anything), it
>> fails with the following error :
>
>> Buildfile: D:eclipseTCSworkspaceTCSTestinjector.xml
>> injection:
>> BUILD FAILED
>> D:eclipseTCSworkspaceTCSTestinjector.xml:21: Problem: failed to create
>> task or type am3.loadModel
>> Cause: The name is undefined.
> Hi,
>
> I am new to TCS myself, so no warranty.
>
> I usually have the AMMACore and AMMAScripts project checked out in my
> workspace, and I believe that's how they were referenced. I am not sure
> whther that ever got changed.
>
> As it says on the TCS language project site:
>
> Checking out the Required Projects
>
> The first step is to check out the AMMAScripts, and AMMACore projects in
> your workspace, if you do not have them already.
>
> To do this, you can connect anonymously by CVS to repository
> /cvsroot/technology on server dev.eclipse.org using the pserver
> protocol. Then, you can checkout the two projects available in
> org.eclipse.gmt/org.eclipse.gmt.tcs/scripts/.
>
> NB: Some external libraries are required, please refer to the README.txt
> file in the AMMAScripts project for more details.
>
>
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #18178 is a reply to message #16644] |
Wed, 23 July 2008 10:56 |
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Joe,
You may simply use the context menu action to inject and extract your files.
Should you need to use the ant scripts (injector.xml and extractor.xml),
then you would need to configure their launch following the AM3 Ant
Tasks documentation: http://wiki.eclipse.org/AM3_Ant_Tasks.
According to the error message you mention, it seems that you have not
specified that the scripts must run in the same JRE (see
http://wiki.eclipse.org/AM3_Ant_Tasks#Launching_an_Ant_file_ with_AM3_tasks_in_an_Eclipse_workbench).
Regards,
Frédéric Jouault
Joe Macintosh a écrit :
> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>
> In fact I still can't make TCS work.
> I've created a TCS project. But when I try to run the injector ant task
> in this default project (whithout having changed anything), it fails
> with the following error :
>
> Buildfile: D:\eclipseTCS\workspaceTCS\Test\injector.xml
> injection:
> BUILD FAILED
> D:\eclipseTCS\workspaceTCS\Test\injector.xml:21: Problem: failed to
> create task or type am3.loadModel
> Cause: The name is undefined.
> Action: Check the spelling.
> Action: Check that any custom tasks/types have been declared.
> Action: Check that any <presetdef>/<macrodef> declarations have taken
> place.
>
> I've installed AM3. And am3.loadModel is registered in my ant tasks.
>
>> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>> Sorry that was the /cvsroot/tools repository
>>
>>> By the way, for those interested, I had also to check out
>>> org.antlr.runtime from the v3.0.0 branch of the org.eclipse.orbit
>>> project (on the /cvsroot/technology repository).
>>>
>>> Joe Macintosh wrote :
>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help and sorry for having been a bit harsh in the
>>>> previous message. So I managed to install TCS and it works fine! (I
>>>> had to checkout some plugins for AM3 though for having syntax
>>>> highlighting).
>>>>
>>>> Now I will begin to play with TCS :)
>>>>
>>>> Keep up the good work,
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> PS: Do you a date in mind for the TMF release of TCS ?
>>>>
>>>> Frédéric Jouault wrote :
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> > I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because
>>>>> there
>>>>> > is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page
>>>>> on the
>>>>> > wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not
>>>>> enough.
>>>>> > What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
>>>>> > compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have
>>>>> to get
>>>>> > the old one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>> I have updated the installation guide on the wiki:
>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project#Installing_the_ Required_Features
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > That will be really nice to be able to download a working
>>>>> installation
>>>>> > with all the plugins needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I completely agree with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you have noticed TMF does not have a download page yet.
>>>>> This is of course going to change once the migration from GMT to
>>>>> TMF is finished.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
>>>>> > provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial
>>>>> context.
>>>>> > I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
>>>>>
>>>>> Older versions were actually easier to install, and several
>>>>> companies have been using TCS successfully.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also recently been using Project Set Files to ease the CVS
>>>>> check-out procedure. Please let us know if you are interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, binary builds should solve this installation problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Frédéric Jouault
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| Re: [TCS] Install TCS... [message #18363 is a reply to message #16499] |
Fri, 01 August 2008 08:51 |
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Hi Jouault,
Even using the instructions updated on the page, the task of installing
the TCS is not so easy. After a week of attempts to install I found a
file lost in the net (I don't found any reference to it)
(http://www.sciences.univ-nantes.fr/lina/atl/www/tcsdemo/). Now I use
Eclipse Modeling Tools Ganymede and simple extract files in archive and
install the plugin by p2 installer of Eclipse 3.4.
Cleverton Hentz
Frédéric Jouault wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I'm interrested in TCS but I have given up installing it because there
> > is almost no information on how to do that. I've seen the page on the
> > wiki http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project but that's not enough.
> > What plugins do I need to make it work? I suppose ATL, but is it
> > compatible with the new version of ATL for ganymede or do I have to get
> > the old one?
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
> I have updated the installation guide on the wiki:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/TCS/Language_Project#Installing_the_ Required_Features
>
>
>
> > That will be really nice to be able to download a working installation
> > with all the plugins needed.
>
> I completely agree with you.
>
> As you have noticed TMF does not have a download page yet.
> This is of course going to change once the migration from GMT to TMF is
> finished.
>
>
> > I've read somewhere (I think in the tmf
> > provposal) that TCS has been proven successful in an industrial context.
> > I find it odd since it is hard not even to use but to install.
>
> Older versions were actually easier to install, and several companies
> have been using TCS successfully.
>
> We have also recently been using Project Set Files to ease the CVS
> check-out procedure. Please let us know if you are interested.
>
> Of course, binary builds should solve this installation problem.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Frédéric Jouault
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