| Business Applications with Eclipse [message #158246] |
Tue, 18 November 2003 10:10  |
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Originally posted by: weberjn.hotmail.com
I wonder if you use Eclipse as Client platform for J2EE business
applications. There are several interesting projects for HTML clients for
J2EE, like Struts or tapestry.
It seems a rich client is not fashionable. But we need a highly
interactive client to enter business data, with lots of semantic checks.
So, how would you develop business applications with Eclipse?
Certainly data should be gotten as value objects from EJBS via RMI, but
how would you connect the data to the gui? Is that to be done with the EMF
project?
How can you attach the gui controls to EJB security, i.e. grey out actions
that are not allowed for the user?
How would you do constraints between gui fields (i.e. check male and grey
out maiden name)?
Thank you very much,
Juergen
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| Re: Business Applications with Eclipse [message #158540 is a reply to message #158246] |
Tue, 18 November 2003 18:40  |
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Originally posted by: nex8.gmx.net
Hello, Juergen,
You are right, we need a highly interactive client for business data,
traditional HTML-based web clients are just not good enough for that
purpose.
In my opinion, this is a huge opportunity for the eclipse platform, to
evolve to a universal rich client for business applications but also for
the semantic web.
Microsoft is also thinking "fat" in that direction in Longhorn
(http://news.com.com/2009-1016_3-5103226.html?tag=nefd_lede).
In Eclipse 3 there will be a rich client subproject
( http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/platform -ui-home/rcp-proposal/rich_client_platform_facilities.html)
So I think you could use the Eclipse API containing all necessary
widgets (SWT or JFace) to easily build your rich client application.
Then communicate via webservices or RMI with your server application to
exchange data.
You don't need Struts or Tapestry since these are HTML-based frameworks.
Hope that helped,
Tommy
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Qanyon.com
Juergen Weber wrote:
> I wonder if you use Eclipse as Client platform for J2EE business
> applications. There are several interesting projects for HTML clients for
> J2EE, like Struts or tapestry.
> It seems a rich client is not fashionable. But we need a highly
> interactive client to enter business data, with lots of semantic checks.
> So, how would you develop business applications with Eclipse?
> Certainly data should be gotten as value objects from EJBS via RMI, but
> how would you connect the data to the gui? Is that to be done with the EMF
> project?
> How can you attach the gui controls to EJB security, i.e. grey out actions
> that are not allowed for the user?
> How would you do constraints between gui fields (i.e. check male and grey
> out maiden name)?
>
>
> Thank you very much,
> Juergen
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| Re: Business Applications with Eclipse [message #158778 is a reply to message #158540] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 05:18 |
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Originally posted by: weberjn.hotmail.com
Hello, Thomas,
thanks for your links, I did not know yet about the rich client project.
> You are right, we need a highly interactive client for business data,
> traditional HTML-based web clients are just not good enough for that
> purpose.
Good arguments for non-HTML are on this vendor page:
http://www.jtwister.com/
> In Eclipse 3 there will be a rich client subproject
This looks promising. Is there a relation to the EMF project, which, as I
understand, has a java generator?
Thanks,
Juergen
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| Re: Business Applications with Eclipse [message #181206 is a reply to message #181001] |
Fri, 16 January 2004 12:27 |
| Eclipse User |
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RPC Software currently sells an order management and accounting application
that uses the Eclipse workbench (v 2.2.1, not the RCP, yet). We currently
have one customer in production. I think it has worked out great. The
workbench architecture and the use of extension points will make it easier
for use to customize installations for each one of our clients.
Ted Stockwell
Technical Director
RPC Software
www.rpcsoftware.com
"Koen Aers" <koen.aers@advalvas.be> wrote in message
news:bu8q46$loq$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi,
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> In our project we are also considering to use Eclipse as a rich client
> framework for our business application. But to convince my bosses and
> our clients it would be nice to be able to mention projects that already
> did similar things. Does anybody know of such examples?
>
> Greetings,
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> Koen
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