| Update Manager 2.0 - > 2.1 [message #142530] |
Fri, 10 October 2003 22:00  |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-user.jibeinc.com
One of my machines has Eclipse 2.0.2 installed under Win2k. I assumed I
could use Update Manager to upgrade it to 2.1.x, but it fails to find
any available updates.
Is this expected/intended?
Eric
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Eric Rizzo
Software Architect
Jibe, Inc.
http://www.jibeinc.com
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| Re: Update Manager 2.0 - > 2.1 [message #143337 is a reply to message #143006] |
Mon, 13 October 2003 21:06  |
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Originally posted by: dorian.birsan.net
"Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-user@jibeinc.com> wrote in message
news:bme9hm$tog$1@eclipse.org...
> dorian birsan wrote:
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> > "Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-user@jibeinc.com> wrote in message
> > news:bm7o51$3tr$1@eclipse.org...
> >
> >>One of my machines has Eclipse 2.0.2 installed under Win2k. I assumed I
> >>could use Update Manager to upgrade it to 2.1.x, but it fails to find
> >>any available updates.
> >>Is this expected/intended?
> >
> >
> > The update manager cannot be used for updating from 2.0.x to 2.1.x, you
need
> > to install it manually
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> Actually, it finds 2.1 after I stumbled upon the Preferences setting
> Install/Update > Valid Updates and changed it from Equivalent to
Compatible.
In general, there are enough changes between eclipse releases one year apart
that I wold not just use the update manager for upgrades. Update manager is
best used to install new features, updates, patches, but I'd say eclipse
itself has too many changes that are not always just plug-in level updates
(which is what Update manager handles). For example eclipse.exe,
startup.jar, etc. may not be the same and they are not updateable via the
update manager.
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> Is it me, or are those names just bad?
Yes, these terms are confusing. Got a better suggestion?
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> Eric
> --
> Eric Rizzo
> Software Architect
> Jibe, Inc.
> http://www.jibeinc.com
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-dorian
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| Re: Update Manager 2.0 - > 2.1 [message #143672 is a reply to message #143337] |
Tue, 14 October 2003 10:56 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-user.jibeinc.com
dorian birsan wrote:
>>Actually, it finds 2.1 after I stumbled upon the Preferences setting
>>Install/Update > Valid Updates and changed it from Equivalent to
>> Compatible.
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> In general, there are enough changes between eclipse releases one year apart
> that I wold not just use the update manager for upgrades. Update manager is
> best used to install new features, updates, patches, but I'd say eclipse
> itself has too many changes that are not always just plug-in level updates
> (which is what Update manager handles). For example eclipse.exe,
> startup.jar, etc. may not be the same and they are not updateable via the
> update manager.
That is somewhat understandable, although I'd suggest that the Update
Manager be enhanced to perform "complete" updates when appropriate,
instead of just plugins and features. Main reason is that I still find
it somewhat painful to upgrade to a new installation, what with
preferences and plug-ins and all.
In the end, I realized this other machine had few plug-ins and
preferences set, so I just installed 2.1 and let it migrate my workspace.
>>Is it me, or are those names just bad?
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> Yes, these terms are confusing. Got a better suggestion?
I guessed that was coming (darn open source projects - always asking for
users' input and help! :-)
I like "Service increments" and "Dot-Releases", but keep the examples
(1.0.2 -> 1.0.3 and 1.0.x -> 1.1.x)
Or, just "Minor increments" and "Major releases" sounds good, too.
HTH,
Eric
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Eric Rizzo
Software Architect
Jibe, Inc.
http://www.jibeinc.com
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