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GEF and GFC [message #126817] Mon, 12 April 2004 12:59 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ranjan_manas1.in.ibm.com

hi all,

i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i have
developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the core
implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place of GDF
keeping GFC implementation intact.

i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any other
way round.

thanks in advance for help
Re: GEF and GFC [message #126843 is a reply to message #126817] Mon, 12 April 2004 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?

From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If that is
true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without much
trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look at the
GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.

"Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> hi all,
>
> i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i have
> developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the core
> implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place of GDF
> keeping GFC implementation intact.
>
> i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any other
> way round.
>
> thanks in advance for help
>
Re: GEF and GFC [message #126972 is a reply to message #126843] Tue, 13 April 2004 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ranjan_manas1.in.ibm.com

Hi pratik,

thanks for an early reply..GFC is an IBM technology which has now been
removed from alphaworks..GFC consists of core GFC (u r right it is
something i have used for implementing the model and algorithm) ,
GDF(Graph Drawing Framework), GLF (Graph Layout framework).

i am sure i can use GEF but what i wanted to know was can i use it as a
standalone application with SWT and JFace.


Pratik Shah wrote:

> What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?

> From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If that is
> true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
> implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without much
> trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
> requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look at the
> GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.

> "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> > hi all,
> >
> > i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i have
> > developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the core
> > implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place of GDF
> > keeping GFC implementation intact.
> >
> > i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any other
> > way round.
> >
> > thanks in advance for help
> >
Re: GEF and GFC [message #127045 is a reply to message #126972] Tue, 13 April 2004 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
SWT and Draw2d are stand-alone. JFace and GEF are married to the Eclipse
platform.

"Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:c5fqnh$t7$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi pratik,
>
> thanks for an early reply..GFC is an IBM technology which has now been
> removed from alphaworks..GFC consists of core GFC (u r right it is
> something i have used for implementing the model and algorithm) ,
> GDF(Graph Drawing Framework), GLF (Graph Layout framework).
>
> i am sure i can use GEF but what i wanted to know was can i use it as a
> standalone application with SWT and JFace.
>
>
> Pratik Shah wrote:
>
> > What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?
>
> > From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If
that is
> > true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
> > implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without much
> > trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
> > requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look at
the
> > GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.
>
> > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> > > hi all,
> > >
> > > i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i have
> > > developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the core
> > > implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place of
GDF
> > > keeping GFC implementation intact.
> > >
> > > i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any
other
> > > way round.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance for help
> > >
>
>
Re: GEF and GFC [message #127107 is a reply to message #127045] Wed, 14 April 2004 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ranjan_manas1.in.ibm.com

hi pratik,
SWT and jface can be used stand alone..

thanks

Pratik Shah wrote:

> SWT and Draw2d are stand-alone. JFace and GEF are married to the Eclipse
> platform.

> "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:c5fqnh$t7$1@eclipse.org...
> > Hi pratik,
> >
> > thanks for an early reply..GFC is an IBM technology which has now been
> > removed from alphaworks..GFC consists of core GFC (u r right it is
> > something i have used for implementing the model and algorithm) ,
> > GDF(Graph Drawing Framework), GLF (Graph Layout framework).
> >
> > i am sure i can use GEF but what i wanted to know was can i use it as a
> > standalone application with SWT and JFace.
> >
> >
> > Pratik Shah wrote:
> >
> > > What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?
> >
> > > From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If
> that is
> > > true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
> > > implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without much
> > > trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
> > > requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look at
> the
> > > GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.
> >
> > > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> > > > hi all,
> > > >
> > > > i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i have
> > > > developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the core
> > > > implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place of
> GDF
> > > > keeping GFC implementation intact.
> > > >
> > > > i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any
> other
> > > > way round.
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advance for help
> > > >
> >
> >
Re: GEF and GFC [message #127248 is a reply to message #127107] Wed, 14 April 2004 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Yes, on further investigation, it seems you are right. My mistake. But GEF
is still dependent on the Eclipse platfrom. That, however, has not stopped
some others from hacking the GEF plugin to remove all platfrom dependencies
and making as much of it work outside of Eclipse as they possibly can (or at
least as much as they need).

"Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:c5ig8k$b8n$1@eclipse.org...
> hi pratik,
> SWT and jface can be used stand alone..
>
> thanks
>
> Pratik Shah wrote:
>
> > SWT and Draw2d are stand-alone. JFace and GEF are married to the
Eclipse
> > platform.
>
> > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > news:c5fqnh$t7$1@eclipse.org...
> > > Hi pratik,
> > >
> > > thanks for an early reply..GFC is an IBM technology which has now been
> > > removed from alphaworks..GFC consists of core GFC (u r right it is
> > > something i have used for implementing the model and algorithm) ,
> > > GDF(Graph Drawing Framework), GLF (Graph Layout framework).
> > >
> > > i am sure i can use GEF but what i wanted to know was can i use it as
a
> > > standalone application with SWT and JFace.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pratik Shah wrote:
> > >
> > > > What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?
> > >
> > > > From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If
> > that is
> > > > true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
> > > > implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without
much
> > > > trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
> > > > requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look
at
> > the
> > > > GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.
> > >
> > > > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> > > > > hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i
have
> > > > > developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the
core
> > > > > implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place
of
> > GDF
> > > > > keeping GFC implementation intact.
> > > > >
> > > > > i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any
> > other
> > > > > way round.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks in advance for help
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
Re: GEF and GFC [message #127427 is a reply to message #127248] Thu, 15 April 2004 08:48 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: ranjan_manas1.in.ibm.com

thanks a lot pratik, i will go ahead and use Draw2d and GEF..i will try to
remove the dependencies and see if it works.

thanks again for all the responses
bye


Pratik Shah wrote:

> Yes, on further investigation, it seems you are right. My mistake. But GEF
> is still dependent on the Eclipse platfrom. That, however, has not stopped
> some others from hacking the GEF plugin to remove all platfrom dependencies
> and making as much of it work outside of Eclipse as they possibly can (or at
> least as much as they need).

> "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:c5ig8k$b8n$1@eclipse.org...
> > hi pratik,
> > SWT and jface can be used stand alone..
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Pratik Shah wrote:
> >
> > > SWT and Draw2d are stand-alone. JFace and GEF are married to the
> Eclipse
> > > platform.
> >
> > > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c5fqnh$t7$1@eclipse.org...
> > > > Hi pratik,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for an early reply..GFC is an IBM technology which has now been
> > > > removed from alphaworks..GFC consists of core GFC (u r right it is
> > > > something i have used for implementing the model and algorithm) ,
> > > > GDF(Graph Drawing Framework), GLF (Graph Layout framework).
> > > >
> > > > i am sure i can use GEF but what i wanted to know was can i use it as
> a
> > > > standalone application with SWT and JFace.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pratik Shah wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What are GFC (Graph Foundation Classes?) and GDF?
> > > >
> > > > > From what you say, it seems that GFC is, in essence, your model. If
> > > that is
> > > > > true (and if that model was decoupled well enough from the GDF
> > > > > implementation), you should be able to replace GDF with GEF without
> much
> > > > > trouble. GEF is "model-agnostic" (to quote Randy Hudson) and has no
> > > > > requirements/constraints for the model. For more information, look
> at
> > > the
> > > > > GEF tutorial (under Reference Articles) on our website.
> > > >
> > > > > "Manas" <ranjan_manas1@in.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:c5eht2$khg$1@eclipse.org...
> > > > > > hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i am new to GEF, infact i have just started looking into it. i
> have
> > > > > > developed generalized metamodeling tool which uses GFC for the
> core
> > > > > > implementation and GDF for drawing figures..Can i use GEF in place
> of
> > > GDF
> > > > > > keeping GFC implementation intact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have read that GDF cannot be used outside eclipse..is there any
> > > other
> > > > > > way round.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks in advance for help
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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