| Edit source code... [message #10901] |
Fri, 09 December 2005 12:16  |
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Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com
Hi all,
MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
Thanks.
:Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #11077 is a reply to message #10977] |
Wed, 25 January 2006 22:44  |
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Originally posted by: spam.breakfast.ca
Hello all, I am an interested J2ME developer that plans to follow this
project from an arms length (mainly as I don't have time to delve much
deeper) but will throw my 2c in when I see something relevant to me.
I agree with Craig but I see those as high priority in terms of source
code editing. I use Eclipse for my daily J2ME coding and my biggest
headache is lack of support for preprocessor directives.
Antenna is a widely used J2ME tool and I think it would be wise to adopt
it's preprocessor style (which, I'm told, is basically the same as the
standard C preprocessor).
Advanced preprocessing in the form of Macro expansion -- our tools team
has hacked up Antenna somewhat for that =) -- would be another big plus
but I would rank that lower priority then the basic preproc directive
parsing.
Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
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> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
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> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #563282 is a reply to message #10901] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 08:19 |
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Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..
Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #563311 is a reply to message #10953] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 14:15 |
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Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com
Fred Grott wrote:
> Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..
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>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Thank you, Fred.
:Steven in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #563332 is a reply to message #10901] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 14:32 |
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Steven,
It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
"device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
will want to have a few more things:
- Content assist for the preprocessing directives
- Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
- Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
in the current configuration
Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
Craig
Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #563355 is a reply to message #10977] |
Thu, 15 December 2005 18:47 |
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Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com
Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Thanks for your input, Craig.
:Steven in Dallas
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| Re: Edit source code... [message #563518 is a reply to message #10977] |
Wed, 25 January 2006 22:44 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: spam.breakfast.ca
Hello all, I am an interested J2ME developer that plans to follow this
project from an arms length (mainly as I don't have time to delve much
deeper) but will throw my 2c in when I see something relevant to me.
I agree with Craig but I see those as high priority in terms of source
code editing. I use Eclipse for my daily J2ME coding and my biggest
headache is lack of support for preprocessor directives.
Antenna is a widely used J2ME tool and I think it would be wise to adopt
it's preprocessor style (which, I'm told, is basically the same as the
standard C preprocessor).
Advanced preprocessing in the form of Macro expansion -- our tools team
has hacked up Antenna somewhat for that =) -- would be another big plus
but I would rank that lower priority then the basic preproc directive
parsing.
Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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