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Fastview Outline -- Opinions Requested [message #119072]

Thu, 28 August 2003 16:56

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mzarra.extraquest.com

I have a question for the other developers out there that use Eclipse as
their primary development platform.

I use Eclipse in a configuration that takes up very little room on the
screen. In other words I have all of the "views" set up in fastview
mode so they are out of my way unless I need them. I noticed a few
months back that when the Outline view is in fastview mode that it does
not automatically retract when a selection is made. This seemed odd to
me since the navigation view does auto retract.

I posted a bug about this but the bug was closed with a "will not fix"
and a claim that it is working as intended. However this seems wrong to
me and was wondering what opinions you other developers have on this
subject.

Another question I would have to those who are actually coding on the
project, if I disagree with the decision of one of the bug managers,
what recourse is there?

Re: Fastview Outline -- Opinions Requested [message #119086 is a reply to message #119072]

Thu, 28 August 2003 17:20

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: faust.acm.org

Just FYI, I agree with the WILLNOTFIX. Retracting the outline view would not
make sense since the outline view works in a single click fashion. So, you
wouldn't be able to scroll through the outline view with the keyboard
without retracting it.

The beauty of Eclipse is that it's open source. If you really want you can
modify the source code yourself. Alternatively, I suppose you could reopen
the bug and inspire a large debate and get a lot of people to vote for your
bug if you think its worth it. If there's a lot of attention focused on it
and a lot of people are interested, the commiters may change their mind
about the WILLNOTFIX status.

Randy

"Marcus S. Zarra" <mzarra@extraquest.com> wrote in message
news:20030828145730636-0600@news.eclipse.org...
> I have a question for the other developers out there that use Eclipse as
> their primary development platform.
>
> I use Eclipse in a configuration that takes up very little room on the
> screen. In other words I have all of the "views" set up in fastview
> mode so they are out of my way unless I need them. I noticed a few
> months back that when the Outline view is in fastview mode that it does
> not automatically retract when a selection is made. This seemed odd to
> me since the navigation view does auto retract.
>
> I posted a bug about this but the bug was closed with a "will not fix"
> and a claim that it is working as intended. However this seems wrong to
> me and was wondering what opinions you other developers have on this
> subject.
>
> Another question I would have to those who are actually coding on the
> project, if I disagree with the decision of one of the bug managers,
> what recourse is there?

Re: Fastview Outline -- Opinions Requested [message #119300 is a reply to message #119086]

Fri, 29 August 2003 13:05

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mzarra.extraquest.com

That was the purpose of this thread to discuss this issue and see if I
am in fact in the minority on this one. For example, your response, I
never considered using the keyboard on the outline view while in fast
view mode since to open the fast view I use the mouse and since my hand
is already on the mouse, well you get the idea.

There is another show outline that is a pop up but that popup is
incredibly slow which causes me to use the fastview outline more often.

I would really hate to raise a stink about it and get people all up in
arms in the bug tracking system if in fact I am the only one who
considers this to be an issue.

Hopefully more people will post their opinions on this thread.

Re: Fastview Outline -- Opinions Requested [message #119544 is a reply to message #119300]

Fri, 29 August 2003 18:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: faust.acm.org

> There is another show outline that is a pop up but that popup is
> incredibly slow which causes me to use the fastview outline more often.

"Incredibly slow"... that doesn't sound good. Are you talking about "Show
Outline [Ctrl-O]" and on what platform and version of Eclipse are you
running and with what kind of machine? If there's a serious performance
issue, please file a bug report.

Randy

Re: Fastview Outline -- Opinions Requested [message #119558 is a reply to message #119544]

Fri, 29 August 2003 18:27

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mzarra.extraquest.com

This is on OSX and I have already filed a bug report about it.

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