| p2 for developers ? [message #110505] |
Thu, 22 May 2008 10:24  |
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Hi guys,
After bitching about update manager and following the first discussions of
the provisioning work I've been out far too long ..
I'm trying to dive back in p2, as an integration developer, trying to see
how I can write our next gen installer around it. This is proving to be a
little tedious as there isn't much to go on. A lot of plug ins and very
little in an architectural overview documentation or even javadoc for that
matter. Burying the source of the example installer in the eclipse CVS
repository makes it even harder.
If someone has anything lying around I haven't found yet (presentation or
so) that would be great. The wiki pages and the source itself aren't all
that helpful.
Now I know the code isn't API yet, because you are waiting for feedback,
but this situation does make it a bit difficult to provide feedback. I'm
sure I'll find my way around eventually but others might simply give up.
This would be a shame.
I've seen a lot of blogs recently about p2, good and bad .. and they all
tend to focus on the default UI tooling. I can imagine people being
unhappy with those but it's unfortunate that they would trash it without
knowing that they can actually write their own UI. Something that in the
update manager was hardly feasible due to the monstrous amount of bugs
(I've never understood how the UI was able to work so well, while the back
end was filled with multi core races).
Anyway, so does anybody know of some more detailed implementation docs or
a short intro which classes I would need to weave together as a first step?
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| Re: p2 for developers ? [message #110606 is a reply to message #110505] |
Fri, 23 May 2008 17:15  |
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I don't have anything specific, but as far as I'm aware, most of the
what has been written so far in the way of docs is on the wiki:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:Equinox_p2
-Andrew
Erik Vanherck wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> After bitching about update manager and following the first discussions
> of the provisioning work I've been out far too long ..
>
> I'm trying to dive back in p2, as an integration developer, trying to
> see how I can write our next gen installer around it. This is proving to
> be a little tedious as there isn't much to go on. A lot of plug ins and
> very little in an architectural overview documentation or even javadoc
> for that matter. Burying the source of the example installer in the
> eclipse CVS repository makes it even harder.
>
> If someone has anything lying around I haven't found yet (presentation
> or so) that would be great. The wiki pages and the source itself aren't
> all that helpful.
>
> Now I know the code isn't API yet, because you are waiting for feedback,
> but this situation does make it a bit difficult to provide feedback. I'm
> sure I'll find my way around eventually but others might simply give up.
> This would be a shame.
>
> I've seen a lot of blogs recently about p2, good and bad .. and they all
> tend to focus on the default UI tooling. I can imagine people being
> unhappy with those but it's unfortunate that they would trash it without
> knowing that they can actually write their own UI. Something that in the
> update manager was hardly feasible due to the monstrous amount of bugs
> (I've never understood how the UI was able to work so well, while the
> back end was filled with multi core races).
> Anyway, so does anybody know of some more detailed implementation docs
> or a short intro which classes I would need to weave together as a first
> step?
>
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| Re: p2 for developers ? [message #111130 is a reply to message #110505] |
Fri, 30 May 2008 15:50 |
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If you want to go headless, the Director class is a good start, so is the
installer code.
If you want to go with a UI, there are a variety of building blocks (or
wannabe) that you could start from and get inspiration from.
If you have more precise questions maybe driven by a concrete use case then
we could help you more precisely
HTH,
PaScal
"Erik Vanherck" <Erik.Vanherck@inventivedesigners.com> wrote in message
news:e023ee448806b6ff717fc04c37a15d52$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi guys,
>
> After bitching about update manager and following the first discussions of
> the provisioning work I've been out far too long ..
>
> I'm trying to dive back in p2, as an integration developer, trying to see
> how I can write our next gen installer around it. This is proving to be a
> little tedious as there isn't much to go on. A lot of plug ins and very
> little in an architectural overview documentation or even javadoc for that
> matter. Burying the source of the example installer in the eclipse CVS
> repository makes it even harder.
>
> If someone has anything lying around I haven't found yet (presentation or
> so) that would be great. The wiki pages and the source itself aren't all
> that helpful.
>
> Now I know the code isn't API yet, because you are waiting for feedback,
> but this situation does make it a bit difficult to provide feedback. I'm
> sure I'll find my way around eventually but others might simply give up.
> This would be a shame.
>
> I've seen a lot of blogs recently about p2, good and bad .. and they all
> tend to focus on the default UI tooling. I can imagine people being
> unhappy with those but it's unfortunate that they would trash it without
> knowing that they can actually write their own UI. Something that in the
> update manager was hardly feasible due to the monstrous amount of bugs
> (I've never understood how the UI was able to work so well, while the back
> end was filled with multi core races).
> Anyway, so does anybody know of some more detailed implementation docs or
> a short intro which classes I would need to weave together as a first
> step?
>
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