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| Similar Features... [message #89] | Thu, 10 March 2005 08:44  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as I'm
 only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
 now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
 
 I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
 ideas/code from my project is usable.
 
 Holger
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| Re: Similar Features... [message #115 is a reply to message #90] | Fri, 18 March 2005 03:59  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Some more Words about why I started programming these plugins: 
 - Database Development
 I currently work on 2 projects, where all business-logic is implemented with
 stored procedures. We use Sybase databases, one ASA for a small department
 and one ASE for the rest of our enterprise.
 Until now I use text-files to code the procedures, because I did not find
 any database-tool, which worked better for me than TextPad (Win) or Kate
 (Linux) - both with 'tuned' syntax files.
 What I always missed is code-completion, support for CVS etc., a
 posssibility to synchronize the scripts with the database, a graphical
 debugger, a possibility to compile SPs with all it's dependencies and the
 possibility to show the output of query-plans at the right position in a
 batch.
 In the last month there came up some tools, which support code completion
 (DBVisualizer, Datastudio ...) but mostly the support is very basic: No
 variables, no objects from other databases, no syntax-dependent completion
 and so on.
 
 - Database Administration
 Here the situation is a lot better, usually the tools from the db-vendors do
 a good job - but:
 If you want one tool for different vendors, the functionality often is very
 limited.
 I've never seen a tool which has the possibility, to show an overview over
 all running databases with hints if something is wrong (running out of
 disk-space, to much connections...)
 
 As I said before - nothing of the above mentioned features is implemented in
 dbclipse, the last thing I was working on was a XML-configurable SQL-Parser
 to support different SQL-dialects with one editor. (I fear, this alone will
 be a several years project for one programmer...)
 
 Thanks for reading!
 
 Holger
 
 John Graham wrote:
 
 > Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and
 > get back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on
 > this.
 >
 > -- John Graham
 > john.graham@sybase.com
 > Eclipse DTP
 >
 > "Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
 > news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
 >>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
 >> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
 >> I'm
 >> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
 >> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
 >>
 >> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
 >> ideas/code from my project is usable.
 >>
 >> Holger
 >>
 >>
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| Re: Similar Features... [message #563942 is a reply to message #89] | Fri, 11 March 2005 11:30  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and get back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on this.
 
 -- John Graham
 john.graham@sybase.com
 Eclipse DTP
 
 "Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
 news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
 >a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
 > the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
 > I'm
 > only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
 > now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
 >
 > I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
 > ideas/code from my project is usable.
 >
 > Holger
 >
 >
 |  |  |  |  | 
| Re: Similar Features... [message #564282 is a reply to message #90] | Fri, 18 March 2005 03:59  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Some more Words about why I started programming these plugins: 
 - Database Development
 I currently work on 2 projects, where all business-logic is implemented with
 stored procedures. We use Sybase databases, one ASA for a small department
 and one ASE for the rest of our enterprise.
 Until now I use text-files to code the procedures, because I did not find
 any database-tool, which worked better for me than TextPad (Win) or Kate
 (Linux) - both with 'tuned' syntax files.
 What I always missed is code-completion, support for CVS etc., a
 posssibility to synchronize the scripts with the database, a graphical
 debugger, a possibility to compile SPs with all it's dependencies and the
 possibility to show the output of query-plans at the right position in a
 batch.
 In the last month there came up some tools, which support code completion
 (DBVisualizer, Datastudio ...) but mostly the support is very basic: No
 variables, no objects from other databases, no syntax-dependent completion
 and so on.
 
 - Database Administration
 Here the situation is a lot better, usually the tools from the db-vendors do
 a good job - but:
 If you want one tool for different vendors, the functionality often is very
 limited.
 I've never seen a tool which has the possibility, to show an overview over
 all running databases with hints if something is wrong (running out of
 disk-space, to much connections...)
 
 As I said before - nothing of the above mentioned features is implemented in
 dbclipse, the last thing I was working on was a XML-configurable SQL-Parser
 to support different SQL-dialects with one editor. (I fear, this alone will
 be a several years project for one programmer...)
 
 Thanks for reading!
 
 Holger
 
 John Graham wrote:
 
 > Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and
 > get back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on
 > this.
 >
 > -- John Graham
 > john.graham@sybase.com
 > Eclipse DTP
 >
 > "Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
 > news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
 >>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
 >> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
 >> I'm
 >> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
 >> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
 >>
 >> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
 >> ideas/code from my project is usable.
 >>
 >> Holger
 >>
 >>
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