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Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #696]

Fri, 08 July 2005 20:38

Eclipse User

Hi Edwin,
Congratulations!
I am assuming that the initial contribution will come from the code acquired
by Oracle from Collaxa. ;-)
Is that correct?
Also, when could the initial contribution be made available for download to
check-it out?
What is the timeline for project approval?
Cordially
Philippe

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #721 is a reply to message #696]

Wed, 20 July 2005 10:29

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: edwin.khodabakchian.oracle.com

Thanks Philippe (sorry for the delay).

The initial contribution is still an open question: we have an eclipse
implementation today (which is indeed based on the Collaxa code base) but
that contribution is built in DHTML/Ajax. At this point, the thinking is
to carry forward the knowledge and some of the design elements but
re-implement a more native eclipse solution. By native, we mean
implemented in Java and taking advantage of EMF and other graphical
frameworks available in Eclipse. (Note: if you want to look at what the
latest designer implementation looks like, you can download the eclipse
plugin from the http://otn.oracle.com/bpel site, given that is implemented
in DHTML, all the code is there!)

From a timeline perspective, the eclipse process has a 1-month review
process before making a decision. The goal during that month is to build a
community around the project and this is what we are actively doing.

Best,
Edwin

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #737 is a reply to message #721]

Mon, 25 July 2005 14:10

Eclipse User

Edwin,
Thanks for your reply.
Just my 2 cents: if you have a working contribution as a starting point,
even if you may want to re-implement it as a native Java/SWT application, I
would be a strong advocate of starting with that.
Projects that start with a clean slate have a hard time to create a
community following!
And a plug-in with a DHTML UI would be quite interesting in itself too.

"Edwin Khodabakchian" <edwin.khodabakchian@oracle.com> wrote in message
news:acd293b2e21716f9c39f69e376fb7939$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Thanks Philippe (sorry for the delay).
>
> The initial contribution is still an open question: we have an eclipse
> implementation today (which is indeed based on the Collaxa code base) but
> that contribution is built in DHTML/Ajax. At this point, the thinking is
> to carry forward the knowledge and some of the design elements but
> re-implement a more native eclipse solution. By native, we mean
> implemented in Java and taking advantage of EMF and other graphical
> frameworks available in Eclipse. (Note: if you want to look at what the
> latest designer implementation looks like, you can download the eclipse
> plugin from the http://otn.oracle.com/bpel site, given that is implemented
> in DHTML, all the code is there!)
>
> From a timeline perspective, the eclipse process has a 1-month review
> process before making a decision. The goal during that month is to build a
> community around the project and this is what we are actively doing.
>
> Best,
> Edwin
>
>

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #753 is a reply to message #737]

Tue, 26 July 2005 21:29

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: edwin.khodabakchian.oracle.com

Thanks for the insight: we are actively working on building the community.
I will make sure that the option of us contributing the DHTML source as
input is tabled during our discussions (and will keep you posted). -Edwin

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2081 is a reply to message #721]

Wed, 04 January 2006 16:57

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, Edwin,
there is no download in your link whatsoever.
Could it b possible to update the link for DHTML/AJAX Designer
implementation download?

> frameworks available in Eclipse. (Note: if you want to look at what the
> latest designer implementation looks like, you can download the eclipse
> plugin from the http://otn.oracle.com/bpel site, given that is implemented
> in DHTML, all the code is there!)

Another question is what is the rationale for such strange decision to move
from AJAX/DHTML Designer to EMF? Might be I do not understand something but
for me is more natural to have web-based solutions vs. desktop ones.

Guennadi Vanine

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2247 is a reply to message #2081]

Sat, 07 January 2006 10:40

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: rich.weiskopf.anvi.com

According to the 11/15 to 11/27 F2F Eclipse BPEL-Designer executive
summary minutes, there is a "...desire to use IBM's editor, model, and
validator codebase...".

Is there a time frame when the IBM code base will be made available?

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2304 is a reply to message #2247]

Mon, 09 January 2006 11:11

Eclipse User

rich wrote:
> According to the 11/15 to 11/27 F2F Eclipse BPEL-Designer executive
> summary minutes, there is a "...desire to use IBM's editor, model, and
> validator codebase...".
> Is there a time frame when the IBM code base will be made available?
>

It's available now.

Check my posting from 11/29/2005 entitled "Initial code release" in this
newsgroup.

james

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2334 is a reply to message #2304]

Mon, 16 January 2006 18:03

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, James,
Well, I checked it before writing my post and you?

Guennadi Vanine
"James Moody" <James_Moody@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:dpu1vq$pem$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> rich wrote:
>> According to the 11/15 to 11/27 F2F Eclipse BPEL-Designer executive
>> summary minutes, there is a "...desire to use IBM's editor, model, and
>> validator codebase...".
>> Is there a time frame when the IBM code base will be made available?
>>
>
> It's available now.
>
> Check my posting from 11/29/2005 entitled "Initial code release" in this
> newsgroup.
>
> james

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2363 is a reply to message #2334]

Tue, 17 January 2006 14:14

Eclipse User

I don't know what you're asking. Rich asked when the code will be
available on Eclipse.org, and I told him that it already is (and has
been since Nov. 29th).

james

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Hi, James,
> Well, I checked it before writing my post and you?
>
> Guennadi Vanine
> "James Moody" <James_Moody@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:dpu1vq$pem$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> rich wrote:
>>> According to the 11/15 to 11/27 F2F Eclipse BPEL-Designer executive
>>> summary minutes, there is a "...desire to use IBM's editor, model, and
>>> validator codebase...".
>>> Is there a time frame when the IBM code base will be made available?
>>>
>> It's available now.
>>
>> Check my posting from 11/29/2005 entitled "Initial code release" in this
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> james
>
>

Re: Will the bpel designer initial contribution be based on the Collaxa code? [message #2393 is a reply to message #2363]

Thu, 19 January 2006 02:03

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, Moody,
thank you for your time and direct answer.
Guennadi Vanine
"James Moody" <James_Moody@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:dqjfn9$7eg$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>I don't know what you're asking. Rich asked when the code will be available
>on Eclipse.org, and I told him that it already is (and has been since Nov.
>29th).
>
> james

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