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Is RAP Production Ready? [message #66995]

Wed, 19 December 2007 02:43

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: anupgokhale.rediffmail.com

The Eclipse RAP project looks very promising indeed. I am aware that the
version 1.0 of RAP is out. However is this version production ready? I
know that it will take at least a couple of more versions for RAP to
mature. But is the version 1.0 stable enough(no major bugs etc) to be used
in an actual project?

I have also noticed that there is not much excitement and activity in the
community/blog world for RAP.

Regards,
Anup

Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67011 is a reply to message #66995]

Wed, 19 December 2007 06:08

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: just4lists.nospammail.net

I believe (hope) so!!!
If it helps for you decision, we are using it for a critical project in the
defence area. We missed some funcionality like the cell editors but in the
end, all the team agreed that it was a great choice over the GWT option.

Regards,

Joel Oliveira

"Anup Gokhale" <anupgokhale@rediffmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:f2f7538e4393e458c62358061d2f6389$1@www.eclipse.org...
> The Eclipse RAP project looks very promising indeed. I am aware that the
> version 1.0 of RAP is out. However is this version production ready? I
> know that it will take at least a couple of more versions for RAP to
> mature. But is the version 1.0 stable enough(no major bugs etc) to be used
> in an actual project?
>
> I have also noticed that there is not much excitement and activity in the
> community/blog world for RAP.
> Regards,
> Anup
>

Antw: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67020 is a reply to message #66995]

Wed, 19 December 2007 10:14

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: admin.kabe-farben.ch

we use it in an actual project, and apart from certain missing features like
cell editors, we don't see why not to use.
what do you mean with "not much excitement and activity"?
For our part, we are excited and impressed.
And what would be the alternative? GWT is client-related and therefor - in
our view - inferior to the concept of RWT.

Greets
Andrej

>>> Anup Gokhale<anupgokhale@rediffmail.com> schrieb am 19.12.2007 um 08:43
in
Nachricht <f2f7538e4393e458c62358061d2f6389$1@www.eclipse.org>:
> The Eclipse RAP project looks very promising indeed. I am aware that the
> version 1.0 of RAP is out. However is this version production ready? I
> know that it will take at least a couple of more versions for RAP to
> mature. But is the version 1.0 stable enough(no major bugs etc) to be
> used
> in an actual project?
>
> I have also noticed that there is not much excitement and activity in
> the
> community/blog world for RAP.
>
> Regards,
> Anup

Re: Antw: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67030 is a reply to message #67020]

Wed, 19 December 2007 12:12

Eclipse User

IŽm just evaluating the Concept of RAP for Usage in Production Use, and I
am also highly impressed. This Technology is in my opinion ready for
production use in the current state. The Point that there is "not" much
activity in the community is not right in my opinion, I think there is
quite a huge community which grows from day to day.

Greetz!

Martin

Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67036 is a reply to message #67030]

Wed, 19 December 2007 16:40

Eclipse User

Hi,

I just want to add one aspect which should be taken into consideration:
The performance with IE6 is quite bad. If you have many users using IE6
I think RAP would be a bad choice.

Best regards,
T.Gau

Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67082 is a reply to message #67036]

Thu, 20 December 2007 02:49

Eclipse User

I agree with all other answers. Performance in IE in general (Even IE7
is far behind Firefox in complex applications) is a huge problem and a
second are memory leaks on the browser side. This also applies mainly to
IE and a lot of other JavaScript-Frameworks have to deal with that
problem as well.

Another risk which I see in the RAP technology stack is dependency to
qooxdoo wich is used for Browser-side rendering. If the further
depevelopment of qooxdoo slows down or even halts this might have a
serious impact on RAP (take the memory problem or several open bugs
which depend on qooxdoo as example).

However, I'm very optimistic and looking forward to an exiting 2008
where a lot of RAP applications will we launched and probably enforce
the further development of the framework.

Regards,
Stefan.

T.Gau schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I just want to add one aspect which should be taken into consideration:
> The performance with IE6 is quite bad. If you have many users using IE6
> I think RAP would be a bad choice.
>
> Best regards,
> T.Gau

Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67092 is a reply to message #67082]

Thu, 20 December 2007 02:53

Eclipse User

Hi,

> Another risk which I see in the RAP technology stack is dependency to
> qooxdoo wich is used for Browser-side rendering. If the further
> depevelopment of qooxdoo slows down or even halts this might have a
> serious impact on RAP (take the memory problem or several open bugs
> which depend on qooxdoo as example).
>
as far as I know qooxdoo is maily developed by the same company who
develops and contributed RAP. So this should be no problem.

Markus
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Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67102 is a reply to message #67092]

Thu, 20 December 2007 04:23

Eclipse User

Hi Markus,

RAP is mainly developed by Innoopract but Qooxdoo has been developed by
United Internet (1&1). See www.qooxdoo.org and www.innoopract.com for
details.

As both projects are open source this might become less important in the
future but, as far as I know, these companys are the driving forces
behind the scenes at the moment.

Regards,
Stefan.

Markus Wolf schrieb:
> Hi,
> as far as I know qooxdoo is maily developed by the same company who
> develops and contributed RAP. So this should be no problem.
>
> Markus

Re: Is RAP Production Ready? [message #67124 is a reply to message #67092]

Thu, 20 December 2007 04:49

Eclipse User

Hi,

this is not right. The qooxdoo library itself is mainly developed by
"1und1", RAP is mainly developed by Innoopract engineers (and hopefully
some other contributors out here in the future). But I see Stefans point
that RAP depends heavily on Qooxdoo at the moment. For the next release
we want to split RAP into two parts. On the one side the lifecycle et al
and on the other side the client side technology to render the UI. In
general we want to bring the developers the same freedom as SWT has by
having fragments for each rendering engine (SWT: GTK, Win32, Vista,
Motif, etc - RWT: Qooxdoo, other JS Framework, Flash, whatever). There
are no plans yet to have another frontend technology - we just want to
open up the possibility so that the community can itself implement a new
rendering engine.

Hope that helped to have a better overview.

Greets
Benny

Markus Wolf wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Another risk which I see in the RAP technology stack is dependency to
>> qooxdoo wich is used for Browser-side rendering. If the further
>> depevelopment of qooxdoo slows down or even halts this might have a
>> serious impact on RAP (take the memory problem or several open bugs
>> which depend on qooxdoo as example).
>>
> as far as I know qooxdoo is maily developed by the same company who
> develops and contributed RAP. So this should be no problem.
>
> Markus

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