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Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #48579] Tue, 21 June 2005 06:10 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: benn.tilby.tangozebra.com

Hi all,

My first ever newsgroup posting here so please bear with me!

I have been given the task of researching whether BIRT will make a suitable
replacement for our current reporting system.

Part of our current system (output for web) enables the user to configure
the structure of a report themselves with a drag and drop js interface.
Their options are currently fairly limited and includes column choices and
grouping choices with total/aggregate inclusion. The reports back end is a
Python server spitting out XML for the actual reports rendered into HTML.

Is this possible in BIRT, either with the XML approach above, or some other
way, for the user to be able to configure the report structure? And for
instant feedback?
My guess is that the .rtpdesgn XML file would be modified by the
interface...? Or is there some other meta-report description type
functionality within BIRT?

Thanks a lot,
BT.
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #48725 is a reply to message #48579] Tue, 21 June 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Benn,

I think you would find that BIRT would work well for the scenario you
describe.

As you correctly mention, you could use your js web front to generate
the BIRT XML report design files, and then use the BIRT engine to run
the report. For "instant feedback", you are going to have to run the
report - perhaps by putting a "Preview" button on your web application.

You have some choices when it comes to working with the BIRT XML report
design itself -- you could either work with the XML file directly (see
http://www.eclipse.org/birt/ref/rom/index.html for details), or you can
use the Report Object Model (ROM) API (see the ROM API documentation in
the API Reference part of the Help > BIRT Developer Guide in the help
system).

Regards,

Paul.
BIRT PMC

Benn Tilby wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My first ever newsgroup posting here so please bear with me!
>
> I have been given the task of researching whether BIRT will make a suitable
> replacement for our current reporting system.
>
> Part of our current system (output for web) enables the user to configure
> the structure of a report themselves with a drag and drop js interface.
> Their options are currently fairly limited and includes column choices and
> grouping choices with total/aggregate inclusion. The reports back end is a
> Python server spitting out XML for the actual reports rendered into HTML.
>
> Is this possible in BIRT, either with the XML approach above, or some other
> way, for the user to be able to configure the report structure? And for
> instant feedback?
> My guess is that the .rtpdesgn XML file would be modified by the
> interface...? Or is there some other meta-report description type
> functionality within BIRT?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> BT.
>
>
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #49086 is a reply to message #48579] Wed, 22 June 2005 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: timo.reichert.dp-itsolutions.de

hi,
I have been given the same task for our reporting system. My questions is:
when will birt be able to create xls or rtf files?
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #50615 is a reply to message #49086] Thu, 23 June 2005 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Timo,

BIRT does not provide an "Emitter" for Excel or RTF today, although this
is something we are aware of and want to do for a future release. To
help us in the planning of this feature, it would be great if you could
add your scenario/use case as comments to the following two Bugzilla
requests:

Export as Excel: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=98661
Export as RTF: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=101502

You should also note that BIRT has a whole extension framework in this
area -- so you could write your own emitter for BIRT to render to either
of these formats. If you did do this, it would be great if you could
donate it back to the community.

Regards,

Paul Clenahan
BIRT PMC

Timo Reichert wrote:
> hi,
> I have been given the same task for our reporting system. My questions
> is: when will birt be able to create xls or rtf files?
>
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #56756 is a reply to message #48579] Tue, 12 July 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: benn.tilby.tangozebra.com

One of our biggest interests would be to reduce the amount of time taken to
build reports. Although BIRT may be faster than our current Python/XML
system is there any way we can additionally reduce latency by reusing
datasets?


"Benn Tilby" <benn.tilby@tangozebra.com> wrote in message
news:d98p1s$nqg$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Hi all,
>
> My first ever newsgroup posting here so please bear with me!
>
> I have been given the task of researching whether BIRT will make a
> suitable replacement for our current reporting system.
>
> Part of our current system (output for web) enables the user to configure
> the structure of a report themselves with a drag and drop js interface.
> Their options are currently fairly limited and includes column choices and
> grouping choices with total/aggregate inclusion. The reports back end is a
> Python server spitting out XML for the actual reports rendered into HTML.
>
> Is this possible in BIRT, either with the XML approach above, or some
> other way, for the user to be able to configure the report structure? And
> for instant feedback?
> My guess is that the .rtpdesgn XML file would be modified by the
> interface...? Or is there some other meta-report description type
> functionality within BIRT?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> BT.
>
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #56783 is a reply to message #48579] Tue, 12 July 2005 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: benn.tilby.tangozebra.com

One of our biggest interests would be to reduce the amount of time taken to
build reports. Although BIRT may be faster than our current Python/XML
system is there any way we can additionally reduce latency by reusing
datasets between reports? This would cause possibly more data to be obtained
than necessary if the second report wasn't viewed. So is there any other
way?


"Benn Tilby" <benn.tilby@tangozebra.com> wrote in message
news:d98p1s$nqg$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Hi all,
>
> My first ever newsgroup posting here so please bear with me!
>
> I have been given the task of researching whether BIRT will make a
> suitable replacement for our current reporting system.
>
> Part of our current system (output for web) enables the user to configure
> the structure of a report themselves with a drag and drop js interface.
> Their options are currently fairly limited and includes column choices and
> grouping choices with total/aggregate inclusion. The reports back end is a
> Python server spitting out XML for the actual reports rendered into HTML.
>
> Is this possible in BIRT, either with the XML approach above, or some
> other way, for the user to be able to configure the report structure? And
> for instant feedback?
> My guess is that the .rtpdesgn XML file would be modified by the
> interface...? Or is there some other meta-report description type
> functionality within BIRT?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> BT.
>
Re: Migrating our reports to BIRT [message #58386 is a reply to message #56783] Thu, 14 July 2005 12:17 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: CyberReefGuru**n.o_s.p.a.m**.hotmail.com

In article <db0tba$rgd$2@news.eclipse.org>, benn.tilby@tangozebra.com
says...
> One of our biggest interests would be to reduce the amount of time taken to
> build reports. Although BIRT may be faster than our current Python/XML
> system is there any way we can additionally reduce latency by reusing
> datasets between reports? This would cause possibly more data to be obtained
> than necessary if the second report wasn't viewed. So is there any other
> way?
>
>
I'm with Benn on this one. Creating the same data source and datasets
for different style reports is cumbersome.

> "Benn Tilby" <benn.tilby@tangozebra.com> wrote in message
> news:d98p1s$nqg$1@news.eclipse.org...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My first ever newsgroup posting here so please bear with me!
> >
> > I have been given the task of researching whether BIRT will make a
> > suitable replacement for our current reporting system.
> >
> > Part of our current system (output for web) enables the user to configure
> > the structure of a report themselves with a drag and drop js interface.
> > Their options are currently fairly limited and includes column choices and
> > grouping choices with total/aggregate inclusion. The reports back end is a
> > Python server spitting out XML for the actual reports rendered into HTML.
> >
> > Is this possible in BIRT, either with the XML approach above, or some
> > other way, for the user to be able to configure the report structure? And
> > for instant feedback?
> > My guess is that the .rtpdesgn XML file would be modified by the
> > interface...? Or is there some other meta-report description type
> > functionality within BIRT?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > BT.
> >
>
>
>
>
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