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| Can't wait!!!!!! [message #4074] | Sat, 03 June 2006 21:41  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: jamesdcarroll.hotmaill.com 
 Can't wait for the inevitable time in the future that folks complain that
 the non native SWT classes that Nebula will create are fat and slow?
 
 Does no one remember that we've already gone through this with Sun and the
 AWT to SWING process?
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| Re: Can't wait!!!!!! [message #562018 is a reply to message #4074] | Sat, 03 June 2006 23:23  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | James D Carroll wrote: > Can't wait for the inevitable time in the future that folks complain that
 > the non native SWT classes that Nebula will create are fat and slow?
 >
 > Does no one remember that we've already gone through this with Sun and the
 > AWT to SWING process?
 
 Not every Nebula control will be this way. :-)
 
 You might want to try CompositeTable, which I submitted to Nebula on one
 of the first days possible.  You can find more information about it in
 the mailing list archives, but the gist is the following:
 
 Table control:
 - Each row in the table is a Composite that you create.
 - Your row objects are encouraged to contain native controls as much as
 possible.
 - Fully virtual: only creates row Composites for rows that are visible
 and only fetches model objects for rows that are visible
 
 Result: it's easy to make a grid with full in-place editing that looks
 and feels as close to native as possible because the in-place editing
 part really *is* native.
 
 A side effect is that it's really fast.
 
 To find CompositeTable:
 
 CVS server: dev.eclipse.org
 Root: /home/eclipse
 Project: org.eclipse.jface.examples.databinding
 
 The latest code as of today is in the 3.2-lockdown branch--the
 development branch we created when the code base went into lockdown mode
 for the 3.2 release.  This coming week, we expect to merge back with
 HEAD when Platform moves to the 3.3 development stream.
 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Dave Orme
 Visual Editor Project Lead
 Eclipse Platform Committer on JFace Data Binding
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| Re: Can't wait!!!!!! [message #562042 is a reply to message #4074] | Tue, 06 June 2006 12:51  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | A solitary custom widget, in-and-of itself, does not have to be fat and slow.  Hopefully Nebula widgets will be high quality.
 
 Its important to remember that Nebula isn't attempting to redefine the
 basic widgets which typically have native peers.  I would highly suggest
 that if you need a widget, use the native SWT widgets. If your needs
 aren't met by the standard SWT widgets, then explore Nebula.
 
 -Chris
 
 
 James D Carroll wrote:
 > Can't wait for the inevitable time in the future that folks complain that
 > the non native SWT classes that Nebula will create are fat and slow?
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 > Does no one remember that we've already gone through this with Sun and the
 > AWT to SWING process?
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| Re: Can't wait!!!!!! [message #562127 is a reply to message #4074] | Fri, 09 June 2006 13:13  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | I would also point out, as chris has eluded too already, that the nebula project adds choices for developers.  When we have an array of styles to
 chose from we can make better products, we just need to be cognizant of the
 impact of our choices and make informed descisions that satisfy our
 requirements, whatever they may be.
 -spencer
 
 "James D Carroll" <jamesdcarroll@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
 news:e5tdlu$rb2$1@utils.eclipse.org...
 > Can't wait for the inevitable time in the future that folks complain that
 > the non native SWT classes that Nebula will create are fat and slow?
 >
 > Does no one remember that we've already gone through this with Sun and the
 > AWT to SWING process?
 >
 >
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