| Java 1.4 vs 1.5 [message #4068] |
Fri, 22 July 2005 11:17  |
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Originally posted by: grahameg.jivaehealth.com
hi
On behalf of Jiva (see other post) I am going to be
leading the development of the some of interoperability
code for EOHF, including much of the messaging code.
An interesting question arose and I'd like to hear
from anyone with an opinion. I'd like to use generics,
but this requires v1.5, and it has been put to me that
it's still to early to write code using v1.5 that is
intended for server production deployment.
I'm interested in hearing opinions on this.
thanks
Grahame
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| Re: Java 1.4 vs 1.5 [message #4242 is a reply to message #4068] |
Fri, 22 July 2005 21:56  |
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Originally posted by: jkuhnert.ekosystems.com
I'd say that would be true, if you were planning on going to production
with this code in about a month or two, but something tells me that's
not really a requirement of this project.
The trends in a lot of the other open source projects (hibernate,
eclipse, tapestry, etc..etc..) seem to be everyone either currently
supporting or actively supporting varying levels of 1.5.
The last and final sort of measurement for jdk stability might be the
number of bug postings found, with the greater the number being a good
thing generally(i think)...1.4 has about 5000 or so and 1.5 has about
3000..Sounds like it'll be plenty stable by the time anyone goes into
production with this.
(P.S. And annotations too I hope? It would be nice to eliminate more and
more xml/configuration files, not that you have any defined yet, but in
case you do. heh)
I think the only thing anyone could ever potentially question going to
production with for server stuff would be windows. ;)
jesse
Grahame Grieve wrote:
> An interesting question arose and I'd like to hear
> from anyone with an opinion. I'd like to use generics,
> but this requires v1.5, and it has been put to me that
> it's still to early to write code using v1.5 that is
> intended for server production deployment.
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| Re: Java 1.4 vs 1.5 [message #4310 is a reply to message #4242] |
Tue, 26 July 2005 07:41 |
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Originally posted by: grahameg.jivaehealth.com
Well, I've just spent a few hours playing with V3 messages.
It's just too hard to do without generics. Possible, probably,
but you spend increasing amounts of time trying to make up
for not having the same inheritence patterns
So 1.5 it will be
Grahame
Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> I'd say that would be true, if you were planning on going to production
> with this code in about a month or two, but something tells me that's
> not really a requirement of this project.
>
> The trends in a lot of the other open source projects (hibernate,
> eclipse, tapestry, etc..etc..) seem to be everyone either currently
> supporting or actively supporting varying levels of 1.5.
>
> The last and final sort of measurement for jdk stability might be the
> number of bug postings found, with the greater the number being a good
> thing generally(i think)...1.4 has about 5000 or so and 1.5 has about
> 3000..Sounds like it'll be plenty stable by the time anyone goes into
> production with this.
>
> (P.S. And annotations too I hope? It would be nice to eliminate more and
> more xml/configuration files, not that you have any defined yet, but in
> case you do. heh)
>
> I think the only thing anyone could ever potentially question going to
> production with for server stuff would be windows. ;)
>
> jesse
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> Grahame Grieve wrote:
>
>> An interesting question arose and I'd like to hear
>> from anyone with an opinion. I'd like to use generics,
>> but this requires v1.5, and it has been put to me that
>> it's still to early to write code using v1.5 that is
>> intended for server production deployment.
>
>
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| Re: Java 1.4 vs 1.5 [message #563477 is a reply to message #4068] |
Fri, 22 July 2005 21:56 |
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I'd say that would be true, if you were planning on going to production
with this code in about a month or two, but something tells me that's
not really a requirement of this project.
The trends in a lot of the other open source projects (hibernate,
eclipse, tapestry, etc..etc..) seem to be everyone either currently
supporting or actively supporting varying levels of 1.5.
The last and final sort of measurement for jdk stability might be the
number of bug postings found, with the greater the number being a good
thing generally(i think)...1.4 has about 5000 or so and 1.5 has about
3000..Sounds like it'll be plenty stable by the time anyone goes into
production with this.
(P.S. And annotations too I hope? It would be nice to eliminate more and
more xml/configuration files, not that you have any defined yet, but in
case you do. heh)
I think the only thing anyone could ever potentially question going to
production with for server stuff would be windows. ;)
jesse
Grahame Grieve wrote:
> An interesting question arose and I'd like to hear
> from anyone with an opinion. I'd like to use generics,
> but this requires v1.5, and it has been put to me that
> it's still to early to write code using v1.5 that is
> intended for server production deployment.
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| Re: Java 1.4 vs 1.5 [message #563505 is a reply to message #4242] |
Tue, 26 July 2005 07:41 |
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Well, I've just spent a few hours playing with V3 messages.
It's just too hard to do without generics. Possible, probably,
but you spend increasing amounts of time trying to make up
for not having the same inheritence patterns
So 1.5 it will be
Grahame
Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> I'd say that would be true, if you were planning on going to production
> with this code in about a month or two, but something tells me that's
> not really a requirement of this project.
>
> The trends in a lot of the other open source projects (hibernate,
> eclipse, tapestry, etc..etc..) seem to be everyone either currently
> supporting or actively supporting varying levels of 1.5.
>
> The last and final sort of measurement for jdk stability might be the
> number of bug postings found, with the greater the number being a good
> thing generally(i think)...1.4 has about 5000 or so and 1.5 has about
> 3000..Sounds like it'll be plenty stable by the time anyone goes into
> production with this.
>
> (P.S. And annotations too I hope? It would be nice to eliminate more and
> more xml/configuration files, not that you have any defined yet, but in
> case you do. heh)
>
> I think the only thing anyone could ever potentially question going to
> production with for server stuff would be windows. ;)
>
> jesse
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> Grahame Grieve wrote:
>
>> An interesting question arose and I'd like to hear
>> from anyone with an opinion. I'd like to use generics,
>> but this requires v1.5, and it has been put to me that
>> it's still to early to write code using v1.5 that is
>> intended for server production deployment.
>
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