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Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831953]

Thu, 03 September 2020 14:52

Raymond Auge

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Registered: August 2015

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As indicated in the title I'm wondering if there is a mylyn-free configuration out there somewhere? I do not use nor have I ever used any part of Mylyn.

I sincerely wish no offence intended to the project or it's developers. I just have always used alternatives which I am much more comfortable with and I wish I could get an Eclipse install without such a large and unused feature. However Mylyn seems so deeply entrenched that I cannot seem to get a usable IDE without it (at least on my own.)

I'm currently using:

Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (includes Incubating components)

Version: 2020-06 (4.16.0)
Build id: 20200615-1200

along with a few features/plugins (mostly bndtools, m2e, buildship, anyedittools)

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831954 is a reply to message #1831953]

Thu, 03 September 2020 15:08

Abel Hegedus

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Registered: September 2015

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I usually start with Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers which has a strange name but is actually just a simple Eclipse with PDE, Git and m2e included, among others. However, if you really want you can also start with Eclipse Platform, that will not include anything additional (not even eGit or JDT).

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831955 is a reply to message #1831954]

Thu, 03 September 2020 16:13

Raymond Auge

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Registered: August 2015

Junior Member

Thanks Abel,

but that also seems to include Mylyn... although I haven't tried in a while so might be worth rechecking if that's true.

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831956 is a reply to message #1831955]

Thu, 03 September 2020 16:43

Ed Merks

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Registered: July 2009

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Yes the Committers package includes Mylyn. But the Eclipse Platform, which is not shown in the restricted installer's simple mode, includes only the bare-bones and is pretty much useless unless you include/install additional features.

Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831964 is a reply to message #1831956]

Thu, 03 September 2020 19:06

Raymond Auge

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Registered: August 2015

Junior Member

Thanks Ed, yeah so as an eclipse committer for many years I have tried off and on to get a usable Eclipse IDE without including Mylyn and it seems impossible to have JDT & m2e without Mylyn. I was sort of hoping someone had manage to solve that. But alas...

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1831977 is a reply to message #1831964]

Fri, 04 September 2020 07:06

Ed Merks

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Registered: July 2009

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What you have specifically tried? The JDT feature definition doesn't depend on Mylyn and I don't believe the m2e feature does either.

It's most certainly possible to create a Configuration for your express purpose:

https://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Oomph_Authoring#Automation_and_Specialization_with_Configurations

E.g., creating a Configuration.setup with these contents:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<setup:Configuration
    xmi:version="2.0"
    xmlns:xmi="http://www.omg.org/XMI"
    xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
    xmlns:setup="http://www.eclipse.org/oomph/setup/1.0"
    xmlns:setup.p2="http://www.eclipse.org/oomph/setup/p2/1.0"
    label="My Minimal IDE">
  <installation
      name="my.minimal.ide.installation"
      label="My Minimal IDE Installation">
    <setupTask
        xsi:type="setup.p2:P2Task">
      <requirement
          name="org.eclipse.jdt.feature.group"/>
      <requirement
          name="org.eclipse.m2e.feature.feature.group"/>
      <requirement
          name="org.eclipse.m2e.logback.feature.feature.group"/>
    </setupTask>
    <productVersion
        href="index:/org.eclipse.products.setup#//@products[name='org.eclipse.platform.ide']/@versions[name='latest']"/>
    <description>The My Minimal IDE installation provides cool stuff.</description>
  </installation>
  <description>The My Minimal IDE configuration provides cool stuff.</description>
</setup:Configuration>

and then dragging and dropping that onto the installer will create in installation with only JDT and m2e. And of course via such a p2 director task, you have complete control of what is installed if you want more things installed.

Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/

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Re: Looking for a Mylyn-free oomph configuration [message #1832004 is a reply to message #1831977]

Fri, 04 September 2020 13:35

Raymond Auge

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Registered: August 2015

Junior Member

Hi Ed,

that... I did not try!

What I tried was starting from a thin base bundle (like SDK) and adding various pieces parts.

But this is very cool. I will certainly try this approach.

Thank you for the information! It's much appreciated. :)

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