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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328161 is a reply to message #328156] | Thu, 15 May 2008 18:38   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: davisons.qwest.com 
 Mr. Hama,
 I've read the history provided by your first link.  First let's make sure
 that I understand your complaint.  You create a file, type something into
 it, and then save it.  Then you open the file, delete some content, and save
 it again.  Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not changed?
 
 I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your problem
 is as I have described it.
 
 Regards,
 Stephen
 
 "Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
 news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
 > History:
 >
 >  http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
 >
 > I download from here:
 >
 >  http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
 > This:
 > wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >  http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >
 > installing:
 > Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
 > Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
 >
 > extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
 >
 > If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
 > Read top link about this bug.
 >
 > How can it possible?
 > I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
 >
 >
 > Hama
 >
 >
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328189 is a reply to message #328164] | Fri, 16 May 2008 11:43   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | I would reproduce it myself. However you have to be extremely detail. For example, I don't know how to get a version of WTP. How did delete
 it? Did you use menu or delete key.
 By the way, have you tried going to control panel -> system, and
 turning off the "screw people up" feature off? Hehehe. No, I couldn't
 resist the last part as a joke.
 
 
 -Derek Lac
 
 > Mr. Hama a écrit :
 >> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
 >>
 >> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
 >> Read top link about this bug.
 > The best way to get a bug fixed is to open a bug report and provide
 > steps to reproduce.
 > Since it seems to be easily reproducable, please mention all what you
 > have done to get it.
 > Now if you are using old versions of Eclipse and WTP, it could be a good
 > idea to try to reproduce first on the latest versions.
 > Then I would try to reproduce without WTP to try to isolate the problem.
 > Once the bug is entered, it will be the good place to track it down.
 > Thanks,
 > --
 > Olivier
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328199 is a reply to message #328161] | Fri, 16 May 2008 15:16   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | If the file size is the same it would be because the file contents fit into the same number of file system blocks as the original. (e.g: I type
 "hello world" into foobar.txt with notepad and save, it is a 1K file
 on my machine.  I  erase 'world' and save and I still have a 1K file)
 If the content you can see doesn't change after you delete something and
 save and re-open then that's different but I have never had that kind of
 problem with any of the Eclipse editors ever.
 -
 Steve Blass
 
 Stephen Davison wrote:
 > Mr. Hama,
 > I've read the history provided by your first link.  First let's make sure
 > that I understand your complaint.  You create a file, type something into
 > it, and then save it.  Then you open the file, delete some content, and save
 > it again.  Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not changed?
 >
 > I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your problem
 > is as I have described it.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Stephen
 >
 > "Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
 > news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
 >> History:
 >>
 >>  http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
 >>
 >> I download from here:
 >>
 >>  http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
 >> This:
 >> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >>  http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >>
 >> installing:
 >> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
 >> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
 >>
 >> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
 >>
 >> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
 >> Read top link about this bug.
 >>
 >> How can it possible?
 >> I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
 >>
 >>
 >> Hama
 >>
 >>
 >
 >
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328263 is a reply to message #328199] | Tue, 20 May 2008 09:39   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: davisons.qwest.com 
 From the description he gave it certainly read like he didn't understand the
 concept of internal fragmentation (aka slack space).  I just wanted to make
 sure that's what he was really describing.
 Regards,
 Stephen
 
 "Steve Blass" <sblass@acm.org> wrote in message
 news:g0kmjj$hv5$1@build.eclipse.org...
 > If the file size is the same it would be because the file contents fit
 > into the same number of file system blocks as the original. (e.g: I type
 > "hello world" into foobar.txt with notepad and save, it is a 1K file on my
 > machine.  I  erase 'world' and save and I still have a 1K file) If the
 > content you can see doesn't change after you delete something and save and
 > re-open then that's different but I have never had that kind of problem
 > with any of the Eclipse editors ever.
 > -
 > Steve Blass
 >
 > Stephen Davison wrote:
 >> Mr. Hama,
 >> I've read the history provided by your first link.  First let's make sure
 >> that I understand your complaint.  You create a file, type something into
 >> it, and then save it.  Then you open the file, delete some content, and
 >> save it again.  Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not
 >> changed?
 >>
 >> I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your
 >> problem is as I have described it.
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >> Stephen
 >>
 >> "Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
 >> news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
 >>> History:
 >>>
 >>>  http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
 >>>
 >>> I download from here:
 >>>
 >>>  http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
 >>> This:
 >>> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >>>  http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
 >>>
 >>> installing:
 >>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
 >>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
 >>>
 >>> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
 >>>
 >>> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
 >>> Read top link about this bug.
 >>>
 >>> How can it possible?
 >>> I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Hama
 >>>
 >>>
 >>
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328332 is a reply to message #328328] | Wed, 21 May 2008 12:55  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com 
 Mr. Hama wrote:
 > If helps, I made the swf / avi video about this bug. Like open file,
 > remove lines, reopen file, and the old content exists.
 >
 > Why noone can help me?
 > Noone can reproduct this bug?
 
 That is correct - no one else has reported anything like this; it is
 unique to your environment. As I told you when you first posted, this
 kind of bug would have been found and fixed a long time ago if it were
 consistent for other users. So clearly it is something unique in your
 system.
 
 Where it the video you made? That would probably be very helpful to see...
 
 Eric
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