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| Re: New Installer Use [message #1708060 is a reply to message #1707933] |
Sat, 12 September 2015 03:23   |
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Hi Guido,
IIRC. Ed has applied the changes needed to support shared installs in
469279: Oomph Setup causes various Error Reports and makes "Help > About > Installation Details" fail, if the
Eclipse install is read-only owned by another user
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=469279
The changes should be available in Mars.0. What installer version are you using?
I'm personally unexperienced with shared installs and I don't use Linux, but maybe Martin Oberhuber, who tested Ed's
changes, can add some comments about what you're trying to do...
Cheers
/Eike
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Am 10.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb Guido Lorio:
> I would like to use new installator to reach the following result:
>
> 1) to install eclipse into Linux (Ubuntu14.04) system folder already existing (i.e. /opt/) by admin user having root
> permissionon 2) to have eclipse installed in to system folder (i.e. /opt/) in order to allow
> any normal user to run eclipse by his own account (and workspace) without providing you any root permisions.
> This result was obtained by old method of installation using commands:
>
> <oldIns>
> cd /opt/
> sudo tar -zxvf /path/where/is/eclipse-*.tar.gz
> gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/eclipse.desktop
> </oldIns>
>
> I tried to do it with the new installer but the installer says
> does not have the permission to create / opt / I think the solution should be to start installer by "gksu eclipse-int"
> in order to allow to write into /opt/.
> Correct?
>
> I hope the installer also will create eclipse.desktop allowing normal user to find/get eclipse by ubuntu unity and run
> it.
> I think the installer should provide the ability to do both personal and system wide installation.
>
> ThanksInAdvanceForAll.
> GuiDo
>
Cheers
/Eike
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| Re: New Installer Use [message #1708068 is a reply to message #1708060] |
Sat, 12 September 2015 06:55 |
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After having talked to Ed, here's a correction to my former statement:
Ed only applied changes that were needed to make downloaded and unzipped packages work in shared installs.
He opened a bugzilla to track possible enhancements to the Oomph installer:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=469837
So, bottom line is: That does currently not work.
Cheers
/Eike
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Am 12.09.2015 um 05:23 schrieb Eike Stepper:
> Hi Guido,
>
> IIRC. Ed has applied the changes needed to support shared installs in
>
> 469279: Oomph Setup causes various Error Reports and makes "Help > About > Installation Details" fail, if the
> Eclipse install is read-only owned by another user
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=469279
>
> The changes should be available in Mars.0. What installer version are you using?
>
> I'm personally unexperienced with shared installs and I don't use Linux, but maybe Martin Oberhuber, who tested Ed's
> changes, can add some comments about what you're trying to do...
>
> Cheers
> /Eike
>
> ----
> http://www.esc-net.de
> http://thegordian.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/eikestepper
>
>
> Am 10.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb Guido Lorio:
>> I would like to use new installator to reach the following result:
>>
>> 1) to install eclipse into Linux (Ubuntu14.04) system folder already existing (i.e. /opt/) by admin user having root
>> permissionon 2) to have eclipse installed in to system folder (i.e. /opt/) in order to allow
>> any normal user to run eclipse by his own account (and workspace) without providing you any root permisions.
>> This result was obtained by old method of installation using commands:
>>
>> <oldIns>
>> cd /opt/
>> sudo tar -zxvf /path/where/is/eclipse-*.tar.gz
>> gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/eclipse.desktop
>> </oldIns>
>>
>> I tried to do it with the new installer but the installer says
>> does not have the permission to create / opt / I think the solution should be to start installer by "gksu eclipse-int"
>> in order to allow to write into /opt/.
>> Correct?
>>
>> I hope the installer also will create eclipse.desktop allowing normal user to find/get eclipse by ubuntu unity and
>> run it.
>> I think the installer should provide the ability to do both personal and system wide installation.
>>
>> ThanksInAdvanceForAll.
>> GuiDo
>>
>
Cheers
/Eike
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http://www.esc-net.de
http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper
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| Re: New Installer Use [message #1708123 is a reply to message #1708083] |
Mon, 14 September 2015 05:42 |
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Am 12.09.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Guido Lorio:
> Hi Eike,
>
> the installer I use is:
> Installer version: 1.1.0 Build 1780 for Linux 64Bits
>
> (a little note: opening installer "about" window, it is not possible to select/copy
> installer version data row. You have to copy it by hand only).
Sounds like a good opportunity to contribute to Oomph ;-)
> If I understand well, now the system wide installation way could be only a future enhancement to the installer.
Yes.
> Then for the moment, if I want to do that type of installation I have to do it using the old type method. Correct?
Correct.
>
> It could be helpfull a middle solution to have an Installer allowing system wide installation without using bundle pool.
> What do you think about it ?
Hard to say, but in theory it could be simpler than with bundle pool support. I vaguely remember that we found code in
the Platform that makes it even impossible to use shared installs with bundle pools via the "old type method", but I
have no time to research that in detail now.
Cheers
/Eike
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http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper
Cheers
/Eike
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http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper
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| Re: New Installer Use [message #1708299 is a reply to message #1708123] |
Tue, 15 September 2015 09:18 |
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Here's Martin's reply, which reached me privately:
Hi,
The key point when using eclipse-installer for a shared multi-user install is, that you need to turn off the bundle pool.
In the installer UI, click the 3 bars ("options") and turn off Bundle Pools.
I've personally installed from a "su" commandline, so I don't know about gksudo and desktop icons.
But I'm not sure if it's the eclipse-installer's job dealing with these. Shouldn't eclipse be packaged by the distribution
provider for ideal desktop integration with a specific distribution ?
Thanks,
Martin
--
Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River
direct +43.662.457915.85 fax +43.662.457915.6
Cheers
/Eike
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| Re: New Installer Use [message #1708309 is a reply to message #1708308] |
Tue, 15 September 2015 11:23 |
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Am 15.09.2015 um 13:17 schrieb Guido Lorio:
> Hi Martin (via Eike?
> I suggest to Martin to register to oomph forum in order to avoid to Eike the routing function...)
>
> My test bed is Linux Ubuntu 14.04.
>
> The "gksu" is the "su" command to run application, with root privileges, having also
> a GUI and then I think the way You suggest (disabling bundle pool) should allow
> system wide installation.
> However I would like to know if the new installer create also the/usr/share/applications/eclipse.desktop file that
> allow to any normal user
> to get eclipse by searching "eclipse" string by Unity dash interface (the system
> application available on right upper corner of desktop default window on Ubuntu 14.04).
Unfortunately I'm not a linux expert and I neither know what a Unity dash interface is, nor what an eclipse.desktop file
does. Am I right that the meaning of this file depends on the window manager? To which ones would it apply and what
would it do there?
Cheers
/Eike
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http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper
Cheers
/Eike
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http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper
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