| "Friends of NatTable" [message #1043322] |
Wed, 17 April 2013 10:59  |
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Hello everybody,
We are currently working hard on the NatTable 1.0.0 release. This is a big step for us. With this release NatTable will be coming out of incubation, will sport a lot of new features and bugfixes, will finally have an update site to make it easier to consume, and will have much improved documentation.
One other thing we would love to do along with the 1.0.0 release is to ask you, our community: Who is using NatTable and how? Knowing more about who our users are, the domains you are in, the needs you have, and how you have been able to apply NatTable to address them, really helps motivate us and direct us in how to move NatTable forward. We think it would also be useful for you to see how other people are using NatTable, and will give useful context for folks who may be deciding to use NatTable or get involved in its development.
So to that end we'd like to put together a "Friends of NatTable" page to be published on the NatTable web site. If you use NatTable, are happy with it and want to share your experience, please let us know by replying to this topic, writing an email to the NatTable mailing list, or emailing one of us. Send us whatever information you feel comfortable sharing. It could be just your company name or the name of your product/project (if you have a link/logo you'd like to include that would be great), or a short blurb about your experience with NatTable, or maybe a screenshot of NatTable in your application. Anything you'd be willing to share will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Edwin and Dirk
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| Re: "Friends of NatTable" [message #1048518 is a reply to message #1043322] |
Wed, 24 April 2013 11:30  |
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Hi,
The Papyrus UML Modeler relies on NatTable to display another kind of view of its UML Models (In addition to GMF Diagrams). It is especially used for displaying big lists of elements (in line) with their properties (in column), when we're not interested in displaying the relations between the elements (In this case we'd rather use diagrams)
So, basically, we use NatTables for lists, and GMF for graphs.
We (will) also use the NatTable widget for displaying collections of elements in the Papyrus Properties View (e.g. display and edit the Attributes of a Class)
We also use the import/export from/to Excel/Nattable, to try to structure arbitrary data from an Excel spreadsheet.
Papyrus has been relying on NatTable since the Indigo Release, two years ago, through the EMF Facet/NatTable integration, and will provide a new table framework (Still based on NatTable) in Kepler. We're only waiting for your release 
Camille
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| Re: "Friends of NatTable" [message #1052012 is a reply to message #1043322] |
Mon, 29 April 2013 10:06 |
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Hi Dirk,
Papyrus is part of the Kepler release train, which is why we try to avoid relying on snapshots. Providing a snapshot-based build for a release seems dangerous (and maybe not even allowed, as the snapshot is not signed I guess).
So for M7, we basically have three options:
- Release on top of Nattable 0.9.0 (But Papyrus already relies on 1.0.0 APIs, so we'd have to downgrade. It might be ok, and we could use 1.0.0 for the official release in June)
- Release on top of Nattable 1.0.0 (Which will be complicated, apparently, as we're getting closer to M7 - next week)
- Do not release the new Papyrus Nattable-based component with M7 (That is, do not release it at all for Kepler, as M7 is feature-freeze). In this case, we would provide this component as an extra component, outside the Kepler release train.
There may be a 4th option which would be to release our own build of Nattable 1.0.0 (In the Papyrus namespace). But this is probably too late for that too. I'm not sure.
That's why we are hoping for a Nattable 1.0.0 official release this week, so that we can build Papyrus M7 (And Papyrus 0.10.0 later on) on top of it, next tuesday (May 7th).
We can rely on snapshots only for our nightly builds, but we really prefer stable builds (It is easier to maintain, as we only need to migrate from time to time, e.g. every 4 months)
Currently, this nattable-based component is not part of our build, so we simply rely on the source code from your git repository.
Regards,
Camille
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| Re: "Friends of NatTable" [message #1052129 is a reply to message #1052059] |
Mon, 29 April 2013 13:12 |
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Hi Dirk,
I'm almost sure that not being in the train by yourself is not a problem with regards to the Eclipse process. Basically, the main requirement is to have a release (if you're an Eclipse Project) or to be in Orbit (Otherwise). Unfortunately, 1.0.0 has not been released yet.
For this reason, even if you provided a 1.0.0RC, I'm almost sure the lack of an actual review would be blocker.
Apparently, using 0.9.0 is not an option either, as there has been major refactorings on the Nattable API between 0.9.0 and 1.0.0.
I will try to get more information on the release process, to see what we can do.
Thanks,
Camille
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