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icon4.gif  Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #894739] Tue, 10 July 2012 10:29 Go to next message
Enrico R. is currently offline Enrico R.Friend
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Hello,

i'm using Eclipse 4.2 on Windows 7 64Bit with Java 1.7u5 64Bit and I think AND see that the GUI takes a long time to refresh themselves. It takes to long before a file gets opened in the editor. Thats not only on the JDT editor its on every view/editor!

I have tried to use the other themes but nothing changed...the GUI is very sluggish!

I know some performance problems occurs if you have a lot of plugins installed but i have tested it with the same plugins on Eclipse 3.8 and i cant determine this GUI-slownes there.

Is it possible to activate a native look&feel like in Eclipse 3.8 ?

Thanks!
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #894768 is a reply to message #894739] Tue, 10 July 2012 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I totally second that. My initial happiness regarding the visually attractive GUI completely vanished after realizing how everything takes 2-4 times longer, even simple things like opening a Tab...

Sad
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #894773 is a reply to message #894768] Tue, 10 July 2012 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's your operating system? I'm on Mac and Windows and though 4.x is a
bit slower than 3.x I don't really notice this. From a performance PoV
the classic theme should perform best because it doesn't has to draw
shadows, ... .

Tom

Am 10.07.12 15:00, schrieb tester tester:
> I totally second that. My initial happiness regarding the visually
> attractive GUI completely vanished after realizing how everything takes
> 2-4 times longer, even simple things like opening a Tab...
>
> :(
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #894792 is a reply to message #894773] Tue, 10 July 2012 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also disabling animations in the appearance preferences helps.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #895615 is a reply to message #894792] Fri, 13 July 2012 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh man, I can't agree more! I was just switching between editor tabs and it was like 2-3 seconds delay between switches. On Win7 64 bit. Also the maven plugin especially seems reallllllly slow. Editing pom files and switching back and forth was an exercise in frustration.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #895619 is a reply to message #895615] Fri, 13 July 2012 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Thomas for this "hidden" tip with the shadows. Smile

I have add or edit "swt-shadow-visible: false;" to all CSS statemants at "e4_basestyle.css" and "e4_default_win7.css" found at "\plugins\org.eclipse.platform_4.2.0.v201206081400\css" but improvements are not really noticeable...a little bit but not really.
Also animations were already disabled all the time.

BTW: Sorry for my poor english I speak primarily german and i hope you guys understand what I write here.

best regards...
Rico
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896660 is a reply to message #894739] Thu, 19 July 2012 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Changing the Appearance into "Classic" (Preferences->General->Appearance) seems indeed to speed up Eclipse again. I still find it strange how the new theme can slow down the UI so much... Now it's back to the old (ugly) style Sad
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896690 is a reply to message #896660] Thu, 19 July 2012 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I noticed it too. My Juno got faster when I added this to my eclipse.ini file:

-vmargs
-Xms512m
-Xmx1024m


Mário Marinato
From Brazil
icon14.gif  Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896876 is a reply to message #894739] Fri, 20 July 2012 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks a lot, this resulted in a remarkable faster UI despite the new theme.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896880 is a reply to message #896876] Fri, 20 July 2012 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe this vm thing is why I couldn't understand people complaining about performance.

First thing I do with any eclipse install is tune the vm. Having become a habit I thought people would tune the vm by default. I mean the default has 512 Megs.
One might think "Oh well in Indigo it wasn't needed." Well I guess it's like pc games: Games advance, and so should your graphics card Smile

I give 2 gigs on a 3 gig ram and don't find it noticeably slow.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896925 is a reply to message #896880] Fri, 20 July 2012 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sopot Cela wrote on Fri, 20 July 2012 11:15
One might think "Oh well in Indigo it wasn't needed."

It is always needed if you have a bunch of plugins installed! As in my case. Wink

I always tune the eclipse.ini a little with additional parameters. Doing that since I'm using eclipse (since Version 3.3).

--launcher.XXMaxPermSize
1024m
--launcher.defaultAction
openFile
-vm
D:/installed/Java/JDK_1.7.5_64bit/bin/javaw.exe
-vmargs
-Declipse.p2.unsignedPolicy=allow
-Xss4m
-XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions
-Xms1024m
-Xmx2560m
-Dsun.lang.ClassLoader.allowArraySyntax=true

The VM is on a separate HDD as my Eclipse installation.

There are more parameters available and i tried to use them but there are some plugins they have problems with different parameters so I use only those that are really necessary.

But I also think an IDE should be as performant as possible. An IDE ist not a "Game", i really don't need an "eye orgasm" if i open up eclipse.
I need performance like a native UI as in previous versions.

Please, do not get me wrong.
The possibility of customizing via CSS is really amazing but you should have a choice between CSS styling and a native UI.

Thanks.

best regards...
Rico
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #896935 is a reply to message #896925] Fri, 20 July 2012 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Rico. I guess we agree on the tuning then.

The game analogy was not to show that eclipse ide is a game, or eye orgasmic. It meant to show that when a software advances it may need more resources to be exploited effectively, just as Skyrim forced me to get a 1gb nVidia card some time ago. Hope you got my idea.

Also I think there's a bug somewhere tracking the providing of an ability to switch to native. I'll see if I can find it.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #897683 is a reply to message #896935] Wed, 25 July 2012 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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unfortunately I'm gree, Juno is very slow and the bad question is that all the world waited so long this version Crying or Very Sad

I believe that with this version, it is the first time that I would like to come back to an older version o to another IDE

Dear guys, I'm sorry but this is a real software failure...said by eclipse lover and fan

Ubuntu latest release, 4 GB ram, now use classic theme and start Eclipse with 512/1024 vmargs.
My coworkers using windows 64bit state same things...

best regards

Raffaele Gambelli

[Updated on: Wed, 25 July 2012 06:23]

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Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #897738 is a reply to message #897683] Wed, 25 July 2012 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, on which OS, with which theme?

Yes we are slower in some areas but frankly on my Mac and Windows
(inside VMWare) I can't hardly feel a difference.

What really drives me nuts though is that the MRU feature of tabs is
gone but I can't complain because I could have taken the time to
implement it.

So we need more information what is slow that we can fix it - and we
definately want to fix it.

As a final note: All and everything you can run in Juno 4.2 can be
installed in 3.8 [1] as well. There are no preconfigured distros but you
can simply use the update-manager.

Tom

[1]http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/eclipse3x.html

Am 25.07.12 08:14, schrieb Raffaele Gambelli:
> unfortunately I'm gree, Juno is very slow and the bad question is that
> all the world waited so long this version :cry:
> I believe that with this version, it is the first time that I would like
> to come back to an older version o to another IDE
>
> Dear guys, I'msorry but this is a real software failure...
>
> best regards
>
> Raffaele Gambelli
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898090 is a reply to message #896690] Wed, 25 July 2012 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't forget the -server option. I'm mostly using:

-vmargs
-server
-Xms128m
-Xmx768m

I really can't notice any annoying performance degree with v4.2. It feels
really good to me (Win7/x64)!

Regards

Frank
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898338 is a reply to message #898090] Thu, 26 July 2012 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is -server option? Could you explain it please, I wasn't able to find it

As I stated, I'm using Ubuntu and it is frustrating switch for example between an xml opened with xml editor and .java opened with java editor, I'm talking about a 50 lines of xml... at least 2/3 seconds to switch...
Layouting views and editor is impossible and very very slow, those green (ugly) lines don't appear when I'm dragging my view or editor to layout them...
Ant view sometimes looses its configuration files and I have to drag them inside view one more time

My coworkers using windows 7 64bit say that using the Windows 7 theme is impossible because of slowness and so all of them switched to Windows 7 classic theme.
I changed my theme too from GTK to classic

I'm talking about computers having good hardware, ram 4GB and modern processors.

Best regards and I hope noone is really thinking that IDE is like game...

IDE is not a game
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898342 is a reply to message #898338] Thu, 26 July 2012 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Raffaele Gambelli wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 11:51

I'm talking about computers having good hardware, ram 4GB and modern processors.

Best regards and I hope noone is really thinking that IDE is like game...

IDE is not a game


If you are indirectly referring to my analogy regarding games I really don't see how difficult it is to understand what I really meant. Anyway, if you really think that I think that an IDE is a game then I again tell you that you are way off the truth.

Raffaele Gambelli wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 11:51

What is -server option? Could you explain it please, I wasn't able to find it


The -server option is an argument given to the JVM while it starts. -server tells the jvm to optimize the overall runtime of the app meanwhile -client tells it to optimize starting time. Generally it is server by default (especially on 64 bit JVMs). You can see how you are running if you do java -version on command line:
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b147)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode)

Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898722 is a reply to message #898342] Fri, 27 July 2012 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While the additional ram helped a bit, it still remains noticeable slower than previous versions. And yes, exactly that switching between tabs of xml (e.g. poms) and java files are very annoying. And yeah, I am also talking of Quad 2.5Ghz+ with 4gig ram.

That said, it's not that previous Eclipse versions were Speedy Gonzalez anyways. Imo the reason lies in the SWT toolkit which is basically a tortoise anyways. People always tried to convince me how fast and performant SWT was compared to e.g. Swing, but I never experienced it that way. I really don't know where people got that illusion. I'd probably need to check out Netbeans if I have time.

Besides, I agree an IDE is not a game which needs to be colorful and sparkle, but the new theme gave me at least something nice and clean to look at compared to the previous versions.

Guess I gotta live with it. It's not that I expect performance to be increased magically...
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898726 is a reply to message #898722] Fri, 27 July 2012 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to make sure I understand.

Is it slow:
a) when switching only between Java-Files
b) when switching between XML and Java-Files

If a) is fast and b) is slow this would indicate that the bottleneck is
e.g. the updating of the toolbar, ... .

Tom

Am 27.07.12 12:56, schrieb tester tester:
> While the additional ram helped a bit, it still remains noticeable
> slower than previous versions. And yes, exactly that switching between
> tabs of xml (e.g. poms) and java files are very annoying. And yeah, I am
> also talking of Quad 2.5Ghz+ with 4gig ram.
> That said, it's not that previous Eclipse versions were Speedy Gonzalez
> anyways. Imo the reason lies in the SWT toolkit which is basically a
> tortoise anyways. People always tried to convince me how fast and
> performant SWT was compared to e.g. Swing, but I never experienced it
> that way. I really don't know where people got that illusion. I'd
> probably need to check out Netbeans if I have time.
>
> Besides, I agree an IDE is not a game which needs to be colorful and
> sparkle, but the new theme gave me at least something nice and clean to
> look at compared to the previous versions.
>
> Guess I gotta live with it. It's not that I expect performance to be
> increased magically...
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #898738 is a reply to message #898726] Fri, 27 July 2012 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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About point "a":
Switching between Java-Files is faster than switching between Java & XML
Files AND switching between Java-Files is even faster with closed
Outline-View (not just minimized, completely closed!).
With closed Outline-View it is really significant.

About point "b": Right. I can confirm that.

I'm running also on a Core2Quad @ 2,7 GHz with 6GB of RAM and a
8800GTS-320 Nvidia Videocard.

Rico

Am 27.07.2012 13:18, schrieb Tom Schindl:
> Just to make sure I understand.
>
> Is it slow:
> a) when switching only between Java-Files
> b) when switching between XML and Java-Files
>
> If a) is fast and b) is slow this would indicate that the bottleneck is
> e.g. the updating of the toolbar, ... .
>
> Tom
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #899876 is a reply to message #898726] Thu, 02 August 2012 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thomas Schindl wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 07:18

a) when switching only between Java-Files
b) when switching between XML and Java-Files


I have been using eclipse to write c code for about 6 months and just switched from indigo to juno. I have never used eclipse to edit an XML or java file. That said...

c) GUI response is slow in juno when switching among .cpp files
AND
d) GUI response is slow in juno when opening and closing various Eclipse dialogs (e.g. "Open Resource")

It seems the GUI is just generally slow all around. The following changes made it run a little faster though, but it remains just slow enough to annoy a "power user" who spends 40 hours of week using Eclipse to write code:
- change theme to "classic"
- disable "animations"
- switch from icedtea jdk to oracle 1.7 jdk
- Xms512m & Xmx1024m (whatever that means)


Thank you!

Chris

PS: I'm running on gentoo 64 bit, 16 GB RAM, i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz

Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #900109 is a reply to message #899876] Sat, 04 August 2012 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 02.08.12 19:06, schrieb Chris Stankevitz:
> Thomas Schindl wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 07:18
>> a) when switching only between Java-Files
>> b) when switching between XML and Java-Files
>
>
> I have been using eclipse to write c code for about 6 months and just
> switched from indigo to juno. I have never used eclipse to edit an XML
> or java file. That said...
>
> c) GUI response is slow in juno when switching among .cpp files
> AND
> d) GUI response is slow in juno when opening and closing various Eclipse
> dialogs (e.g. "Open Resource")
>
> It seems the GUI is just generally slow all around. The following
> changes made it run a little faster though, but it remains just slow
> enough to annoy a "power user" who spends 40 hours of week using Eclipse
> to write code:
> - change theme to "classic"
> - disable "animations"
> - switch from icedtea jdk to oracle 1.7 jdk
> - Xms512m & Xmx1024m (whatever that means)
>

Did you tried the 3.8 stream? There are no prepackaged distros put you
can you can simply use the update-manager to install CDT.

Tom
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #900719 is a reply to message #900109] Wed, 08 August 2012 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi.

I am new to eclipse. Eclipse also appeared to me very, very slow when switching between 2 tabs.

When I installed eclipse I copied it into c:\program files\eclipse

I think here is the problem.

I have moved eclipse to c:\eclipse\ and now it runs like a rocket.

Don't know. Maybe windows performs extra checks in those program files folders.

Peace Chris

Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #900747 is a reply to message #900719] Wed, 08 August 2012 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Christian R. wrote on Wed, 08 August 2012 11:46
Hi.

I am new to eclipse. Eclipse also appeared to me very, very slow when switching between 2 tabs.

When I installed eclipse I copied it into c:\program files\eclipse

I think here is the problem.

I have moved eclipse to c:\eclipse\ and now it runs like a rocket.

Don't know. Maybe windows performs extra checks in those program files folders.

Peace Chris



I downgraded from 4.2 to 3.8. Now it's even more faster.

Peace Chris
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #901058 is a reply to message #900747] Thu, 09 August 2012 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can confirm that Juno becomes a way slower than Indigo. I'm using Eclipse for about 4 years and up to Indigo (3.7) it had very good performance on Windows (XP, 32bit, Classic theme), but on Fedora with KDE it was a bit slower (SWT uses GTK which seems slower anyway) however not very noticeable. But Juno (4.2) with Classic theme selected is a pain, because, for example, opening about 30 Java editors and doing Close All takes around 15 seconds on Athlon II 250 @ 3.2GHz with 8 Gb RAM while freezing GUI completely.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #901065 is a reply to message #901058] Thu, 09 August 2012 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This one I can't confirm at least on an Ubuntu (inside a VM) even with
the new theme this is not taking more then say 2-3 seconds which
although still to slow is not that bad.

Tom

Am 09.08.12 16:58, schrieb Maksym Kit:
> I can confirm that Juno becomes a way slower than Indigo. I'm using
> Eclipse for about 4 years and up to Indigo (3.7) it had very good
> performance on Windows (XP, 32bit, Classic theme), but on Fedora with
> KDE it was a bit slower (SWT uses GTK which seems slower anyway) however
> not very noticeable. But Juno (4.2) with Classic theme selected is a
> pain, because, for example, opening about 30 Java editors and doing
> Close All takes around 15 seconds on Athlon II 250 @ 3.2GHz with 8 Gb
> RAM while freezing GUI completely.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #901645 is a reply to message #901058] Mon, 13 August 2012 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am seeing the same type of problems as Maksym Kit. I have upgraded to Juno on a Windows XP platform. I installed the Eclipse Classic 4.2 Windows 32bit package. I have changed the theme to Windows 7 Classic. For a little info about my workspace, I have about 30 plug-ins and a target platform of the WTP project. I will be switching to 3.8 if this problem annoys me enough, but as a full time Eclipse committer on the WTP Dali project, I clearly have a vested interest in the future of e4!

I opened 20 java files in a Java perspective and it took 60 seconds! Choosing 'Close All' took about 20 seconds. Restarting Eclipse made it take closer to 15 seconds to open 20 java files.

I have attached a jvisualvm snapshot where I opened 30 java files in an empty Java perspective. I also attached a snapshot of closing those same 30 java files. It's hard to know exactly how to narrow the scope in jvisualvm. I have settings:

Start profiling from classes:
org.eclipse.e4.**

Profile only classes:
org.eclipse.ui.*
org.eclipse.e4.*
org.eclipse.core.*

Took a guess based on what I saw in a threaddump. If you need me to profile again with different settings, I am more than happy to do that. I will also let you know if I can reproduce opening 20 files taking 60+ seconds on the UI thread.

Thanks,
Karen
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How do I exactly downgrade to the Indigo version?

From the above I understand that you can do this through the update manager.... But how?

- Ed
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #902376 is a reply to message #902371] Fri, 17 August 2012 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just deinstalled 4.2 and installed 3.8.

Chris
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Another big worsening is dragging and dropping views and editors, this feature is not slower....this feature became totally unusable

I continuously ask myself how it was possible get worse one of the best ide solutions present until today...shocked but I'm curious and a bit masochist to wait for next updates...

[Updated on: Fri, 24 August 2012 07:49]

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If you describe what is not working and file a bug we can fix it. You
don't specify what your OS is for example. I'm not having any trouble
dragging views/editors on OS-X.

What about you contribute?

Tom

Am 24.08.12 09:44, schrieb Raffaele Gambelli:
> Another big worsening is dragging and dropping views and editors, this
> feature is not slower....this feature became totally unusable
>
> I continuously ask myself how it was possible get worse one of the best
> ide solutions present until today...shocked but I'm curious and a bit
> masochist to wait for next updates...
>
>
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #903539 is a reply to message #903534] Fri, 24 August 2012 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to be crystal clear I'm not saying that all and everything is
perfect and we don't need to improve things but we are trying to fix as
much as possible with the given resources.

Tom

Am 24.08.12 09:57, schrieb Tom Schindl:
> If you describe what is not working and file a bug we can fix it. You
> don't specify what your OS is for example. I'm not having any trouble
> dragging views/editors on OS-X.
>
> What about you contribute?
>
> Tom
>
> Am 24.08.12 09:44, schrieb Raffaele Gambelli:
>> Another big worsening is dragging and dropping views and editors, this
>> feature is not slower....this feature became totally unusable
>>
>> I continuously ask myself how it was possible get worse one of the best
>> ide solutions present until today...shocked but I'm curious and a bit
>> masochist to wait for next updates...
>>
>>
>
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I am using MBP

I agree that 4.x is a bit slower than 3.x but not really noticeable. To me, double-click to maximize editor (i.e. Java Editor) is sometimes about 1 sec slower than 3.x

[Updated on: Fri, 24 August 2012 14:37]

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Karen Butzke wrote on Mon, 13 August 2012 21:38
I am seeing the same type of problems as Maksym Kit. I have upgraded to Juno on a Windows XP platform. I installed the Eclipse Classic 4.2 Windows 32bit package. I have changed the theme to Windows 7 Classic. For a little info about my workspace, I have about 30 plug-ins and a target platform of the WTP project. I will be switching to 3.8 if this problem annoys me enough, but as a full time Eclipse committer on the WTP Dali project, I clearly have a vested interest in the future of e4!

I opened 20 java files in a Java perspective and it took 60 seconds! Choosing 'Close All' took about 20 seconds. Restarting Eclipse made it take closer to 15 seconds to open 20 java files.

I have attached a jvisualvm snapshot where I opened 30 java files in an empty Java perspective. I also attached a snapshot of closing those same 30 java files. It's hard to know exactly how to narrow the scope in jvisualvm. I have settings:

Start profiling from classes:
org.eclipse.e4.**

Profile only classes:
org.eclipse.ui.*
org.eclipse.e4.*
org.eclipse.core.*

Took a guess based on what I saw in a threaddump. If you need me to profile again with different settings, I am more than happy to do that. I will also let you know if I can reproduce opening 20 files taking 60+ seconds on the UI thread.

Thanks,
Karen


Thanks for your description. The nps files are really helpful. Please file a bug with this information so we can track it there.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #908563 is a reply to message #908144] Wed, 05 September 2012 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karen Butzke is currently offline Karen ButzkeFriend
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I linked to this forum post from bug 385272 and also posted another snapshot of switching between editors. Do you want me to open a separate bug?
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #908586 is a reply to message #908563] Wed, 05 September 2012 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's enough thanks.
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #908829 is a reply to message #894739] Thu, 06 September 2012 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan M is currently offline Stefan MFriend
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Hello guys,

Win7 x64

Work as is shoud
C:\eclipse4\eclipse.exe -data c:\_e4wsjre620 -vm "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20\bin\javaw.exe" -vmargs -Xms1024m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=1024m


damn slow, exactly as described here
C:\eclipse4\eclipse.exe -data c:\_e4wsjre7 -vm "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -vmargs -Xms1024m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=1024m 


And with jre7 something is going wrong with the ftp support (remote system, aptana remote, iam sure other ftp-services also), no connection can etablished.


Maybe this can help to get e4 work till a generally solution is available.

adios, Stefan

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Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #909196 is a reply to message #908829] Thu, 06 September 2012 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry Stefan, but do you mean that you notice slowdowns when using Java 6, but no slowdowns with Java 7?

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Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #909506 is a reply to message #909196] Fri, 07 September 2012 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No Brian, using Java 7 for whatever reason slows down the UI. After switching back to Java 6 my Eclipse installation runs in usual speed. Thank you Stefan great information!
Re: Eclipse 4.2 GUI is very slow [message #909521 is a reply to message #909506] Fri, 07 September 2012 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Wolfgang, would you please provide your OS and Java version and architecture details?
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