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Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86538]

Tue, 19 August 2003 12:45

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: rbarros.cable.net.co

Hi!

We are using the UML diagrams to teach programming.

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86553 is a reply to message #86538]

Tue, 19 August 2003 13:00

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: adam_kiezun.ch.ibm.remove.com

> We are using the UML diagrams to teach programming.

(flame war warning)
isn't UML for modelling, not programming? :-)

a.

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86619 is a reply to message #86553]

Tue, 19 August 2003 14:40

Eclipse User

> > We are using the UML diagrams to teach programming.
>
> (flame war warning)
I dont think you need to warn about.
> isn't UML for modelling, not programming? :-)
He said to teach programming. UML is what you want to
say and programming is the voice you use.
So its a unit. Its like mankind. Dont devide but unite ;)

Martin (Kersten)

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86633 is a reply to message #86538]

Tue, 19 August 2003 14:47

Eclipse User

Hi Rafael,

> We are using the UML diagrams to teach programming.

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86643 is a reply to message #86633]

Tue, 19 August 2003 15:36

Eclipse User

Well Rafael,

I tested the Omondo EclipseUML plugin... and lets say...
back to pen and paper and Posaidon. :(

Bye

Martin

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86668 is a reply to message #86643]

Tue, 19 August 2003 16:16

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: rbarros.cable.net.co

Thanks Martin!

Actually we use Omondo, with great results. The actual problem is to try to
clear the point of contact between the model and the algorithm. Some
students are great arquitects and others are great constructors, but seems
that there is no intersection between the competences of this two different
profiles. With some professor we try to create a flowchart diagram from the
methods in a class... basically, that's the idea.

We will post any advance in this matter.

Thanks,

Rafael

> Well Rafael,
>
> I tested the Omondo EclipseUML plugin... and lets say...
> back to pen and paper and Posaidon. :(
>
>
> Bye
>
> Martin
>
>

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86678 is a reply to message #86668]

Tue, 19 August 2003 16:54

Eclipse User

Hi Rafael,
>
> Actually we use Omondo, with great results. The actual problem is to try
to
> clear the point of contact between the model and the algorithm. Some
> students are great arquitects and others are great constructors, but seems
> that there is no intersection between the competences of this two
different
> profiles. With some professor we try to create a flowchart diagram from
the
> methods in a class... basically, that's the idea.
Just try pair programming ;). The problem on omondo is that you cant
seperate the model of your UML diagrams from the class hierarchies. Every
little change is reflected by your code instantantly. This is awfull. Please
check
Posaidon and use it seperatly. It is a very quick uml editor. We love to
play around with the diagrams while sitting together. Normally we 'program'
with our normal language(German here ;) and a couple of diagrams. Then
we print the diagrams out (or use screenshots/copies of posaidon projects)
and program it using test first aproche.

Works crazy well. Even if I have to do stuff for university I use this way.
You get the speed of UML + the fun and stability of test first (finish
TestCase before program-logic).

http://www.gentleware.com Community version is free.

Beside that there are some flaws I dont like but compared to omondo
it works great. ;)

Martin (Kersten)

Re: Is there a flow chart diagram plugin available [message #86926 is a reply to message #86538]

Wed, 20 August 2003 04:05

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: John.bc.it.net

Actually there is a free UML case tools from www.visual-paradigm.com.
It has a eclipse integration , it does code to diagram or diagram to code.
Why not try it?

"Rafael J. Barros" <rbarros@cable.net.co> wrote in message
news:bhtk76$ksi$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi!
>
> We are using the UML diagrams to teach programming.

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