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General Server Framework Question [message #181684] Tue, 17 October 2006 14:17 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: mike.bernat.gmail.com

I have not gone too deep into the API and implementation yet, but I was
wondering if this framework would be usable for starting/stopping a
general background process that was not technically a "web server".
Nothing would be deployable to the server, at least not in a web context.

Thanks in advance,
Mike
Re: General Server Framework Question [message #181686 is a reply to message #181684] Tue, 17 October 2006 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: abargnesi.gmail.com

Mike,

You should be able to control a background process using "External
Tools" menu to launch a "Program". This way you could start and stop an
executable (like a script).

However if this is not feasible maybe there is an eclipse plugin to tie
it in. For instance, for New Atlanta's ServletExecDebugger (servlet
container), there is an eclipse plugin that I maintain.

As far as server support within WTP, it seems that your server would
need official support through the platform.

HTH,
Anthony Bargnesi
SED Eclipse plugin - http://sourceforge.net/projects/servletexecdbg

Mike Bernat wrote:
> I have not gone too deep into the API and implementation yet, but I was
> wondering if this framework would be usable for starting/stopping a
> general background process that was not technically a "web server".
> Nothing would be deployable to the server, at least not in a web context.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
Re: General Server Framework Question [message #181733 is a reply to message #181686] Wed, 18 October 2006 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mike.bernat.gmail.com

Anthony,

Thanks for the info. I had looked at the external tools mechanism, but I
was looking for something with a bit tighter integration. For example,
some servers under WTP offer the option of running the server from an
image in the workspace and not modifying the actual server installation.
That is something that I would like to be able to leverage.

Mike

ABargnesi wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You should be able to control a background process using "External
> Tools" menu to launch a "Program". This way you could start and stop an
> executable (like a script).
>
> However if this is not feasible maybe there is an eclipse plugin to tie
> it in. For instance, for New Atlanta's ServletExecDebugger (servlet
> container), there is an eclipse plugin that I maintain.
>
> As far as server support within WTP, it seems that your server would
> need official support through the platform.
>
> HTH,
> Anthony Bargnesi
> SED Eclipse plugin - http://sourceforge.net/projects/servletexecdbg
>
> Mike Bernat wrote:
>> I have not gone too deep into the API and implementation yet, but I
>> was wondering if this framework would be usable for starting/stopping
>> a general background process that was not technically a "web server".
>> Nothing would be deployable to the server, at least not in a web
>> context.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mike
Re: General Server Framework Question [message #182064 is a reply to message #181733] Thu, 02 November 2006 14:45 Go to previous message
Tim deBoer is currently offline Tim deBoerFriend
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Hi Mike,

The answer to your original question is "yes". We've intentionally left the
definition of a server a bit vague, so it can be used for just about
anything. Servers can typically be started and stopped, and usually you
would deploy some type of application from the workspace (doesn't need to be
Java or J2EE related), but even these things are optional.

There are other groups that have done different types of server integration,
e.g. I know a team using a server adapter to debug remote external
processes, and the TCP/IP monitor in WTP used to be implemented as a server
adapter. If you go this route, please feel free to open bug reports or drop
me a line if you have any questions or feel that we've made assumptions in
the framework that are too restrictive.

Tim
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