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| Re: Another progress update [message #11638 is a reply to message #11597] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 15:46   |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org
This is starting to look really slick!
But how will individual projects integrate, and how will the new
architecture help project users focus on the information relevant to them?
Consider the AspectJ web site, which serves a large user community
(http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/). It seems key that the top bar somehow
supports branding the project, both in terms of it's name and it's slogan
(see top-right of the AspectJ page). Perhaps this could be done by allowing
the project to overlay their title and sloganin the middle or right side of
the bar. Also, within-project navigation has to be *really* easy. If the
left-bar is intended to be standard, then I assume that all that free
vertical space can be used for that, e.g.:
Eclipse
+ Committers
+ Newsgroups
+ Bugs
+ Articles
Projects
- AspectJ
- Docs
- Downloads
- Bugs
- Users
- Developers
The problem here is that there is redundnacy with the top items, e.g. bugs
or articles could appear in both lists, which is pretty confusing to a
project user. For example, a typical AspectJ user would never click on the
to Bugs or Articles link because they would be overloaded with irrelevant
info. So it may be better to do something like the following as top level
section.
Eclipse
+ Community
+ Projects
By default you're in community, and you see the current 4 top items under
that. But if you click Projects, you get taken to a full listing and
Community collapses. If you click on a project or navigate to it via URL,
then all you see is Community Collapsed, and the single project under
Projects.
Eclipse
+ Community
Projects
- AspectJ
- Docs
- ...
Quick and consistent access to community resources is the most important
thing. But I think that projects also need to be a first-class part of the
new web site architecture.
Mik
--
Mik Kersten, http://kerstens.org/mik
Mylar project lead, http://eclipse.org/mylar
"Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dj633i$3d3$1@news.eclipse.org...
> We're making good progress on Phoenix!
>
> The homepage is already drated up on a sandbox server and the main
> downloads pages are done.
>
> Once the front page is complete, both it and the main downloads pages will
> make their way to their permanent location on www.eclipse.org, marking the
> beginning of the transition to a new design and content layout.
>
> Subsequent sections will be moved over from the sandbox server to the web
> server as they are completed.
>
>
> Test drive the new website here and give us your feedback (several links
> won't work outside the downloads section):
>
> http://phoenix.eclipse.org/
>
>
> Denis
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| Re: Another progress update [message #11744 is a reply to message #11638] |
Mon, 24 October 2005 13:24 |
 Eclipse Webmaster
Messages: 607343
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Thanks Mik.
We'll likely provide instructions on how projects can create their own
skins. This will give you the most flexibility.
In-project navigation will be easy as a snap. The left bar is broken in
three pieces: standard links (Comitters, Newsgroups, Bugs, Articles,
which appear on each and every page); project links, which are defined
by you and will appear on each of your project pages; and page links,
which are defined for a specific page only. All three pieces are
visually identical, and the latter two are optional.
D.
Mik Kersten wrote:
> This is starting to look really slick!
>
>
>
> But how will individual projects integrate, and how will the new
> architecture help project users focus on the information relevant to them?
> Consider the AspectJ web site, which serves a large user community
> (http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/). It seems key that the top bar somehow
> supports branding the project, both in terms of it's name and it's slogan
> (see top-right of the AspectJ page). Perhaps this could be done by allowing
> the project to overlay their title and sloganin the middle or right side of
> the bar. Also, within-project navigation has to be *really* easy. If the
> left-bar is intended to be standard, then I assume that all that free
> vertical space can be used for that, e.g.:
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Committers
>
> + Newsgroups
>
> + Bugs
>
> + Articles
>
> Projects
>
> - AspectJ
>
> - Docs
>
> - Downloads
>
> - Bugs
>
> - Users
>
> - Developers
>
>
>
> The problem here is that there is redundnacy with the top items, e.g. bugs
> or articles could appear in both lists, which is pretty confusing to a
> project user. For example, a typical AspectJ user would never click on the
> to Bugs or Articles link because they would be overloaded with irrelevant
> info. So it may be better to do something like the following as top level
> section.
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Community
>
> + Projects
>
>
>
> By default you're in community, and you see the current 4 top items under
> that. But if you click Projects, you get taken to a full listing and
> Community collapses. If you click on a project or navigate to it via URL,
> then all you see is Community Collapsed, and the single project under
> Projects.
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Community
>
> Projects
>
> - AspectJ
>
> - Docs
>
> - ...
>
>
> Quick and consistent access to community resources is the most important
> thing. But I think that projects also need to be a first-class part of the
> new web site architecture.
>
>
>
> Mik
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mik Kersten, http://kerstens.org/mik
>
> Mylar project lead, http://eclipse.org/mylar
>
>
>
> "Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@eclipse.org> wrote in message
> news:dj633i$3d3$1@news.eclipse.org...
>
>>We're making good progress on Phoenix!
>>
>>The homepage is already drated up on a sandbox server and the main
>>downloads pages are done.
>>
>>Once the front page is complete, both it and the main downloads pages will
>>make their way to their permanent location on www.eclipse.org, marking the
>>beginning of the transition to a new design and content layout.
>>
>>Subsequent sections will be moved over from the sandbox server to the web
>>server as they are completed.
>>
>>
>>Test drive the new website here and give us your feedback (several links
>>won't work outside the downloads section):
>>
>>http://phoenix.eclipse.org/
>>
>>
>>Denis
>
>
>
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| Re: Another progress update [message #565851 is a reply to message #11597] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 15:46 |
Mik Kersten
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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This is starting to look really slick!
But how will individual projects integrate, and how will the new
architecture help project users focus on the information relevant to them?
Consider the AspectJ web site, which serves a large user community
(http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/). It seems key that the top bar somehow
supports branding the project, both in terms of it's name and it's slogan
(see top-right of the AspectJ page). Perhaps this could be done by allowing
the project to overlay their title and sloganin the middle or right side of
the bar. Also, within-project navigation has to be *really* easy. If the
left-bar is intended to be standard, then I assume that all that free
vertical space can be used for that, e.g.:
Eclipse
+ Committers
+ Newsgroups
+ Bugs
+ Articles
Projects
- AspectJ
- Docs
- Downloads
- Bugs
- Users
- Developers
The problem here is that there is redundnacy with the top items, e.g. bugs
or articles could appear in both lists, which is pretty confusing to a
project user. For example, a typical AspectJ user would never click on the
to Bugs or Articles link because they would be overloaded with irrelevant
info. So it may be better to do something like the following as top level
section.
Eclipse
+ Community
+ Projects
By default you're in community, and you see the current 4 top items under
that. But if you click Projects, you get taken to a full listing and
Community collapses. If you click on a project or navigate to it via URL,
then all you see is Community Collapsed, and the single project under
Projects.
Eclipse
+ Community
Projects
- AspectJ
- Docs
- ...
Quick and consistent access to community resources is the most important
thing. But I think that projects also need to be a first-class part of the
new web site architecture.
Mik
--
Mik Kersten, http://kerstens.org/mik
Mylar project lead, http://eclipse.org/mylar
"Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dj633i$3d3$1@news.eclipse.org...
> We're making good progress on Phoenix!
>
> The homepage is already drated up on a sandbox server and the main
> downloads pages are done.
>
> Once the front page is complete, both it and the main downloads pages will
> make their way to their permanent location on www.eclipse.org, marking the
> beginning of the transition to a new design and content layout.
>
> Subsequent sections will be moved over from the sandbox server to the web
> server as they are completed.
>
>
> Test drive the new website here and give us your feedback (several links
> won't work outside the downloads section):
>
> http://phoenix.eclipse.org/
>
>
> Denis
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| Re: Another progress update [message #565938 is a reply to message #11638] |
Mon, 24 October 2005 13:24 |
Eclipse Webmaster
Messages: 607343
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
|
|
Thanks Mik.
We'll likely provide instructions on how projects can create their own
skins. This will give you the most flexibility.
In-project navigation will be easy as a snap. The left bar is broken in
three pieces: standard links (Comitters, Newsgroups, Bugs, Articles,
which appear on each and every page); project links, which are defined
by you and will appear on each of your project pages; and page links,
which are defined for a specific page only. All three pieces are
visually identical, and the latter two are optional.
D.
Mik Kersten wrote:
> This is starting to look really slick!
>
>
>
> But how will individual projects integrate, and how will the new
> architecture help project users focus on the information relevant to them?
> Consider the AspectJ web site, which serves a large user community
> (http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/). It seems key that the top bar somehow
> supports branding the project, both in terms of it's name and it's slogan
> (see top-right of the AspectJ page). Perhaps this could be done by allowing
> the project to overlay their title and sloganin the middle or right side of
> the bar. Also, within-project navigation has to be *really* easy. If the
> left-bar is intended to be standard, then I assume that all that free
> vertical space can be used for that, e.g.:
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Committers
>
> + Newsgroups
>
> + Bugs
>
> + Articles
>
> Projects
>
> - AspectJ
>
> - Docs
>
> - Downloads
>
> - Bugs
>
> - Users
>
> - Developers
>
>
>
> The problem here is that there is redundnacy with the top items, e.g. bugs
> or articles could appear in both lists, which is pretty confusing to a
> project user. For example, a typical AspectJ user would never click on the
> to Bugs or Articles link because they would be overloaded with irrelevant
> info. So it may be better to do something like the following as top level
> section.
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Community
>
> + Projects
>
>
>
> By default you're in community, and you see the current 4 top items under
> that. But if you click Projects, you get taken to a full listing and
> Community collapses. If you click on a project or navigate to it via URL,
> then all you see is Community Collapsed, and the single project under
> Projects.
>
>
>
> Eclipse
>
> + Community
>
> Projects
>
> - AspectJ
>
> - Docs
>
> - ...
>
>
> Quick and consistent access to community resources is the most important
> thing. But I think that projects also need to be a first-class part of the
> new web site architecture.
>
>
>
> Mik
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mik Kersten, http://kerstens.org/mik
>
> Mylar project lead, http://eclipse.org/mylar
>
>
>
> "Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@eclipse.org> wrote in message
> news:dj633i$3d3$1@news.eclipse.org...
>
>>We're making good progress on Phoenix!
>>
>>The homepage is already drated up on a sandbox server and the main
>>downloads pages are done.
>>
>>Once the front page is complete, both it and the main downloads pages will
>>make their way to their permanent location on www.eclipse.org, marking the
>>beginning of the transition to a new design and content layout.
>>
>>Subsequent sections will be moved over from the sandbox server to the web
>>server as they are completed.
>>
>>
>>Test drive the new website here and give us your feedback (several links
>>won't work outside the downloads section):
>>
>>http://phoenix.eclipse.org/
>>
>>
>>Denis
>
>
>
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