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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #11080 is a reply to message #11069] |
Mon, 06 March 2006 11:56 |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mshaw.tesco.net
Brent D. Metz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I thought I'd let everyone know that we're looking for feedback on where to
> go next with the VTP. We've completed what we originally set out to do (W3C
> standard editors) and added a little more (VoiceXML Browser & API) -- so
> what would you like to see in future voice tools?
>
Hi Everyone,
Top of my wish list would be frameworks for interactive VXML debugging
and automated unit testing that would run in an Eclipse environment.
OK, I know this would not be a small addition... :-)
DEBUGGING:
I guess that creating a VXML browser is outside the VTP scope, but
perhaps defining a remote debugging API isn't. I would see this as
providing a way for a remote system to be informed of events in a
browser and to be able to issue commands to the browser. Hopefully
browser vendors would then provide implementations. A debug session
would run in a VXML debug perspective. Some API functions would be;
Accept debug request, (connection properties, ANI etc, so the remote
debugger can be notified when the test call arrives)
Inform the debugger when events such as starting a form, starting to
play a prompt, finishing a prompt, applying a grammar to an utterance
etc. occurs
Inform the debugger when it processes a new element
Set a break point on a VXML element
Single step over elements
TESTING:
If a debug framework gets developed I expect it could be adapted to
provide automated unit testing
Does this sound sensible / feasible?
Regards,
Marcus.
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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #11087 is a reply to message #11080] |
Mon, 06 March 2006 14:54 |
Eclipse User |
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Thanks for the feedback. It's absolutely feasible and we did our initial
browser APIs with debugging as a future goal. BTW, it's technically possible
to use our existing APIs to create some level of testing. You can
programmatically launch a browser, send it input, and listen for log events
to come back. Not quite a unit test with variable introspection but it's a
start.
"Marcus Shaw" <mshaw@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:duh839$p70$1@eclipse.org...
> Brent D. Metz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought I'd let everyone know that we're looking for feedback on where
>> to go next with the VTP. We've completed what we originally set out to do
>> (W3C standard editors) and added a little more (VoiceXML Browser &
>> API) -- so what would you like to see in future voice tools?
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Top of my wish list would be frameworks for interactive VXML debugging and
> automated unit testing that would run in an Eclipse environment. OK, I
> know this would not be a small addition... :-)
>
> DEBUGGING:
>
> I guess that creating a VXML browser is outside the VTP scope, but perhaps
> defining a remote debugging API isn't. I would see this as providing a
> way for a remote system to be informed of events in a browser and to be
> able to issue commands to the browser. Hopefully browser vendors would
> then provide implementations. A debug session would run in a VXML debug
> perspective. Some API functions would be;
>
> Accept debug request, (connection properties, ANI etc, so the remote
> debugger can be notified when the test call arrives)
>
> Inform the debugger when events such as starting a form, starting to play
> a prompt, finishing a prompt, applying a grammar to an utterance etc.
> occurs
>
> Inform the debugger when it processes a new element
>
> Set a break point on a VXML element
>
> Single step over elements
>
> TESTING:
>
> If a debug framework gets developed I expect it could be adapted to
> provide automated unit testing
>
>
>
> Does this sound sensible / feasible?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcus.
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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #12448 is a reply to message #11087] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 13:12 |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mshaw.tesco.net
Hi All,
Brent's response to my debugging suggestion is very interesting. Would
be great to have an interactive debugger...
One other thing I would like to see would be some documents / tutorials
to help consolidate where the VTP currently stands. For instance, a
tutorial on how the Tell Me browser was developed would be very helpful
for developing other browser implementations.
Regards,
Marcus.
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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #573659 is a reply to message #11069] |
Mon, 06 March 2006 11:56 |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mshaw.tesco.net
Brent D. Metz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I thought I'd let everyone know that we're looking for feedback on where to
> go next with the VTP. We've completed what we originally set out to do (W3C
> standard editors) and added a little more (VoiceXML Browser & API) -- so
> what would you like to see in future voice tools?
>
Hi Everyone,
Top of my wish list would be frameworks for interactive VXML debugging
and automated unit testing that would run in an Eclipse environment.
OK, I know this would not be a small addition... :-)
DEBUGGING:
I guess that creating a VXML browser is outside the VTP scope, but
perhaps defining a remote debugging API isn't. I would see this as
providing a way for a remote system to be informed of events in a
browser and to be able to issue commands to the browser. Hopefully
browser vendors would then provide implementations. A debug session
would run in a VXML debug perspective. Some API functions would be;
Accept debug request, (connection properties, ANI etc, so the remote
debugger can be notified when the test call arrives)
Inform the debugger when events such as starting a form, starting to
play a prompt, finishing a prompt, applying a grammar to an utterance
etc. occurs
Inform the debugger when it processes a new element
Set a break point on a VXML element
Single step over elements
TESTING:
If a debug framework gets developed I expect it could be adapted to
provide automated unit testing
Does this sound sensible / feasible?
Regards,
Marcus.
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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #573683 is a reply to message #11080] |
Mon, 06 March 2006 14:54 |
Eclipse User |
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Thanks for the feedback. It's absolutely feasible and we did our initial
browser APIs with debugging as a future goal. BTW, it's technically possible
to use our existing APIs to create some level of testing. You can
programmatically launch a browser, send it input, and listen for log events
to come back. Not quite a unit test with variable introspection but it's a
start.
"Marcus Shaw" <mshaw@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:duh839$p70$1@eclipse.org...
> Brent D. Metz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought I'd let everyone know that we're looking for feedback on where
>> to go next with the VTP. We've completed what we originally set out to do
>> (W3C standard editors) and added a little more (VoiceXML Browser &
>> API) -- so what would you like to see in future voice tools?
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Top of my wish list would be frameworks for interactive VXML debugging and
> automated unit testing that would run in an Eclipse environment. OK, I
> know this would not be a small addition... :-)
>
> DEBUGGING:
>
> I guess that creating a VXML browser is outside the VTP scope, but perhaps
> defining a remote debugging API isn't. I would see this as providing a
> way for a remote system to be informed of events in a browser and to be
> able to issue commands to the browser. Hopefully browser vendors would
> then provide implementations. A debug session would run in a VXML debug
> perspective. Some API functions would be;
>
> Accept debug request, (connection properties, ANI etc, so the remote
> debugger can be notified when the test call arrives)
>
> Inform the debugger when events such as starting a form, starting to play
> a prompt, finishing a prompt, applying a grammar to an utterance etc.
> occurs
>
> Inform the debugger when it processes a new element
>
> Set a break point on a VXML element
>
> Single step over elements
>
> TESTING:
>
> If a debug framework gets developed I expect it could be adapted to
> provide automated unit testing
>
>
>
> Does this sound sensible / feasible?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcus.
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Re: Feedback on VTP's future [message #573743 is a reply to message #11087] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 13:12 |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mshaw.tesco.net
Hi All,
Brent's response to my debugging suggestion is very interesting. Would
be great to have an interactive debugger...
One other thing I would like to see would be some documents / tutorials
to help consolidate where the VTP currently stands. For instance, a
tutorial on how the Tell Me browser was developed would be very helpful
for developing other browser implementations.
Regards,
Marcus.
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